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Forums - PC Discussion - "Finding Paradise" - sequel to "To The Moon" coming Summer 2017

To The Moon was such a charming game. Even picked up A Bird Story afterwards. I'm sure this game will be equally as good.



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Aaaaah, To the Moon. Despite the fact this is a really good game, this is one of those cases when some of the story elements get under my skin so much that they make unable to enjoy it. And yet it is a good game. Uuuurgh.



You know it deserves the GOTY.

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BasilZero said:
Darwinianevolution said:
Aaaaah, To the Moon. Despite the fact this is a really good game, this is one of those cases when some of the story elements get under my skin so much that they make unable to enjoy it. And yet it is a good game. Uuuurgh.

 

How come :o

Is it cause of the story?

It's the fact that they have no qualms about rewritting someone's memories. Yes, they are supposedly doing it as a mercy for the dying, and they technically discuss it in one bit of the game. But after all the game, knowing the story of the main characters, their struggles, their life experiences, their deepest emotions... the two scientists just end up recreating a big chunk of the poor man's memories by making him think his life went one way completely different. They literally rewrite their memories so he thinks he went to the moon, so who knows how many changes they ended up doing to his mind, regardless he's dying or not. In his last moments on Earth, the dying man relived a life it wasn't his, he was forcefed a lie. And with that, imagine how many changes that caused towards his feelings of his loved ones, his own experiences, his ideas, his opinions... By changing the memories of that man, they are breaking appart all that he considers valuable in this world by simply changing the way he think through his new memories. I don't care he's dying and this is technically a last wish, I find the altering of someone's memories to such a degree highly amoral. And in a game when all is around the scientists knowing the guy so they can change key events of the patien's life, it's a big problem. I was shouting at the screen at the end, when the male scientists, the one who showed at least some concern about their actions, just agree with his partner so shortly after and without a proper explanation or debate whether this is right or wrong. It's like the devs were aware of this possibly ethical dilema, but they just pushed it aside for a "happy ending". And I can't separate the beautiful romance story and slice of life from all of this. It's game-ruining for me.



You know it deserves the GOTY.

Come join The 2018 Obscure Game Monthly Review Thread.

I literally cried with the game, and that's not something I could say about almost anything. Except when I realized I had to buy an expansion pack and wait a week to play Majora's Mask xD.

OT, I'm not sure I'm ready for this.



Darwinianevolution said:

It's the fact that they have no qualms about rewritting someone's memories. Yes, they are supposedly doing it as a mercy for the dying, and they technically discuss it in one bit of the game. But after all the game, knowing the story of the main characters, their struggles, their life experiences, their deepest emotions... the two scientists just end up recreating a big chunk of the poor man's memories by making him think his life went one way completely different. They literally rewrite their memories so he thinks he went to the moon, so who knows how many changes they ended up doing to his mind, regardless he's dying or not. In his last moments on Earth, the dying man relived a life it wasn't his, he was forcefed a lie. And with that, imagine how many changes that caused towards his feelings of his loved ones, his own experiences, his ideas, his opinions... By changing the memories of that man, they are breaking appart all that he considers valuable in this world by simply changing the way he think through his new memories. I don't care he's dying and this is technically a last wish, I find the altering of someone's memories to such a degree highly amoral. And in a game when all is around the scientists knowing the guy so they can change key events of the patien's life, it's a big problem. I was shouting at the screen at the end, when the male scientists, the one who showed at least some concern about their actions, just agree with his partner so shortly after and without a proper explanation or debate whether this is right or wrong. It's like the devs were aware of this possibly ethical dilema, but they just pushed it aside for a "happy ending". And I can't separate the beautiful romance story and slice of life from all of this. It's game-ruining for me.

I completely agree, and that's why I hated the game in the end. I definitely won't buy their next one.



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When I saw the title I thought it was about the old movie, but a sequel to the game sounds good. 🙂



BasilZero said:
Darwinianevolution said:

It's the fact that they have no qualms about rewritting someone's memories. Yes, they are supposedly doing it as a mercy for the dying, and they technically discuss it in one bit of the game. But after all the game, knowing the story of the main characters, their struggles, their life experiences, their deepest emotions... the two scientists just end up recreating a big chunk of the poor man's memories by making him think his life went one way completely different. They literally rewrite their memories so he thinks he went to the moon, so who knows how many changes they ended up doing to his mind, regardless he's dying or not. In his last moments on Earth, the dying man relived a life it wasn't his, he was forcefed a lie. And with that, imagine how many changes that caused towards his feelings of his loved ones, his own experiences, his ideas, his opinions... By changing the memories of that man, they are breaking appart all that he considers valuable in this world by simply changing the way he think through his new memories. I don't care he's dying and this is technically a last wish, I find the altering of someone's memories to such a degree highly amoral. And in a game when all is around the scientists knowing the guy so they can change key events of the patien's life, it's a big problem. I was shouting at the screen at the end, when the male scientists, the one who showed at least some concern about their actions, just agree with his partner so shortly after and without a proper explanation or debate whether this is right or wrong. It's like the devs were aware of this possibly ethical dilema, but they just pushed it aside for a "happy ending". And I can't separate the beautiful romance story and slice of life from all of this. It's game-ruining for me.

 

Ahh I completely understand :)

 

Volterra_90 said:
I literally cried with the game, and that's not something I could say about almost anything. Except when I realized I had to buy an expansion pack and wait a week to play Majora's Mask xD.

OT, I'm not sure I'm ready for this.

 

Buy an expansion pack o.O? What expansion pack?

It was mandatory for playing Majora's Mask on the N64. I think it's like an extra RAM or something like that. I learnt that the hard way xD.



BasilZero said:
Volterra_90 said:

It was mandatory for playing Majora's Mask on the N64. I think it's like an extra RAM or something like that. I learnt that the hard way xD.

 

Oh I thought you were talking about To The Moon LOL.

Oh, nope, I went totally off-topic. To The Moon is not that demanding for an extra RAM, my PC can handle it hahaha.