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Pavolink said:
oniyide said:

more what? the game is still coming. but to another system as well. THat is more

Because the game was delayed due to the new version. Just like TP 10 years ago. That's why. And the "but it's still coming" is not an excuse for this kind of delay.

maybe not, but does 3-4 months really matter?



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oniyide said:
Zkuq said:

Earlier. Releasing it so late means Zelda fans could just have skipped Wii U entirely and got it for Switch instead, in an extreme case. If a Zelda game was released for Wii U earlier, there could be a Zelda exclusive to Wii U, and now we'd be getting another Zelda game for both Wii U and Switch. Wii U just isn't the ideal system for Zelda right now because there's just one game, and even that you can get elsewhere. Most (all?) of Nintendo's other home consoles have got two Zelda games.

serious question. So what? Honestly, why does it matter what Ninty system got what Zelda game? It's not it actual effects the games. You wouldnt have gotten a different game. These Zelda games take a while, it would have came to Wii U and then a port would have been made for Switch. The only thing that has changed is now you have to wait. Its not like one game was going to change the faith of Wii U not in sales and not in reception (Zelda is THAT popular). People really need to understand you gamble everytime you buy a system nothing is gauranteed. 

Obviously people still expected more, and their expectations weren't met. I don't have a Wii U so I don't really care personally, but I can definitely see why some people are upset.

zorg1000 said:
Zkuq said:

Earlier. Releasing it so late means Zelda fans could just have skipped Wii U entirely and got it for Switch instead, in an extreme case. If a Zelda game was released for Wii U earlier, there could be a Zelda exclusive to Wii U, and now we'd be getting another Zelda game for both Wii U and Switch. Wii U just isn't the ideal system for Zelda right now because there's just one game, and even that you can get elsewhere. Most (all?) of Nintendo's other home consoles have got two Zelda games.

If people bought a Wii U for nothing but a new Zelda than maybe they should have waited until a new Zelda released before buying a Wii U........its literally that simple, dont buy a gaming device unless it has games on it that you want to play.

I said 'in an extreme case', and I said it mainly to make a point. If Zelda was one of Wii U's selling points for someone, it lost one of its selling points when it was announced that the only Zelda on Wii U would be simultaneously released on Switch as well. Obviously it's not likely that a lot of people got a Wii U just for a new Zelda games (otherwise they would've just waited, just like you said), but had they known this in advance (and looking at Nintendo's history with Zelda games, they had all the reason to anticipate an exclusive Zelda), they might have considered getting a Wii U more carefully. At the very least their expectations wouldn't have been broken.




zorg1000 said:

If people bought a Wii U for nothing but a new Zelda than maybe they should have waited until a new Zelda released before buying a Wii U........its literally that simple, dont buy a gaming device unless it has games on it that you want to play.

I said 'in an extreme case', and I said it mainly to make a point. If Zelda was one of Wii U's selling points for someone, it lost one of its selling points when it was announced that the only Zelda on Wii U would be simultaneously released on Switch as well. Obviously it's not likely that a lot of people got a Wii U just for a new Zelda games (otherwise they would've just waited, just like you said), but had they known this in advance (and looking at Nintendo's history with Zelda games, they had all the reason to anticipate an exclusive Zelda), they might have considered getting a Wii U more carefully. At the very least their expectations wouldn't have been broken.

I get it to an extent, but the thing is the game is still coming to Wiii U so that selling point is still there and if Zelda wasnt the only reason that they bought a Wii U than all those others still exist.

For example, lets say someone wanted a Wii U for these 5 games, Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Bayonetta 2, Xenoblade, Zelda. Guess what? all 5 of those games are on Wii U.

At least these people still have the option of playing the game on Wii U, its not like Final Fantasy Versus XIII or The Last Guardian where they were delayed for years, assumed to be dead, then all of a sudden showed back up and were no longer releasing on the consoles they were originally announced. 



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mZuzek said:
zorg1000 said:

If people bought a Wii U for nothing but a new Zelda than maybe they should have waited until a new Zelda released before buying a Wii U........its literally that simple, dont buy a gaming device unless it has games on it that you want to play.

Pretty much. When I bought my Wii U back in late 2013 one of the big reasons why I got it was because it was in anticipation of Zelda Wii U... and I'm not mad about that. If anything, it was my fault for getting the console early for a game that hadn't even been shown yet.

The reason why I'm not mad, though, is because the console gave me plenty of worthwhile experiences, including a game that quite literally changed my life.

I typically dont buy consoles at launch and wait until it has at least a few games i really want.

I bought Wii U in March or April 2014, at that point it had NSMBU, Pikmin 3, Wind Waker HD, 3D World, Tropical Freeze and Mario Kart was just around the corner. It had a handful of games i really wanted so at that point it was a worthwhile purchase and the droughts werent as big of a deal because i had enough games to keep my busy for a decent amount of time.



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zorg1000 said:

I said 'in an extreme case', and I said it mainly to make a point. If Zelda was one of Wii U's selling points for someone, it lost one of its selling points when it was announced that the only Zelda on Wii U would be simultaneously released on Switch as well. Obviously it's not likely that a lot of people got a Wii U just for a new Zelda games (otherwise they would've just waited, just like you said), but had they known this in advance (and looking at Nintendo's history with Zelda games, they had all the reason to anticipate an exclusive Zelda), they might have considered getting a Wii U more carefully. At the very least their expectations wouldn't have been broken.

I get it to an extent, but the thing is the game is still coming to Wiii U so that selling point is still there and if Zelda wasnt the only reason that they bought a Wii U than all those others still exist.

For example, lets say someone wanted a Wii U for these 5 games, Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Bayonetta 2, Xenoblade, Zelda. Guess what? all 5 of those games are on Wii U.

At least these people still have the option of playing the game on Wii U, its not like Final Fantasy Versus XIII or The Last Guardian where they were delayed for years, assumed to be dead, then all of a sudden showed back up and were no longer releasing on the consoles they were originally announced. 

I guess it's mostly a matter of expectations and not meeting them. For some people, it could be a big deal, even though it seems most people take it more calmly. That's the case especially if Zelda was a big factor in the decision of getting the console.

Those two examples at the end are pretty good ones, I have to say. For the longest time I wasn't even planning to get a PS4 (or Xbox One, for that matter), and I was pretty disappointed to see those two games slide away from PS3. Now, I just recently got a PS4 so it doesn't really matter that much anymore since when getting a PS4 I think I didn't even know of those two games, but it was still disappointing to think I would miss those games (because I'm not getting a console just a for a game or two in most cases - consoles usually cost a good bit of money).



oniyide said:
Pavolink said:

Because the game was delayed due to the new version. Just like TP 10 years ago. That's why. And the "but it's still coming" is not an excuse for this kind of delay.

maybe not, but does 3-4 months really matter?

The problem is that the game was already delayed 1 full year, most likely because NX version (now Switch), and now it is delayed once again, but not confirmed to be only 3-4 months.

 

Latest ER rumor says that Zelda won't be at launch...



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Pavolink said:
oniyide said:

maybe not, but does 3-4 months really matter?

The problem is that the game was already delayed 1 full year, most likely because NX version (now Switch), and now it is delayed once again, but not confirmed to be only 3-4 months.

 

Latest ER rumor says that Zelda won't be at launch...

that does suck, im not gonna say it doesnt. But IMO thats why its so important to not put faith in one game to hinge on the purchase or enjoyment of an entire comment. It's just not a good idea to buy a system for a game that didnt even have a real trailer. No matter how the past systems turned out.



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zorg1000 said:

I said 'in an extreme case', and I said it mainly to make a point. If Zelda was one of Wii U's selling points for someone, it lost one of its selling points when it was announced that the only Zelda on Wii U would be simultaneously released on Switch as well. Obviously it's not likely that a lot of people got a Wii U just for a new Zelda games (otherwise they would've just waited, just like you said), but had they known this in advance (and looking at Nintendo's history with Zelda games, they had all the reason to anticipate an exclusive Zelda), they might have considered getting a Wii U more carefully. At the very least their expectations wouldn't have been broken.

I get it to an extent, but the thing is the game is still coming to Wiii U so that selling point is still there and if Zelda wasnt the only reason that they bought a Wii U than all those others still exist.

For example, lets say someone wanted a Wii U for these 5 games, Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Bayonetta 2, Xenoblade, Zelda. Guess what? all 5 of those games are on Wii U.

At least these people still have the option of playing the game on Wii U, its not like Final Fantasy Versus XIII or The Last Guardian where they were delayed for years, assumed to be dead, then all of a sudden showed back up and were no longer releasing on the consoles they were originally announced. 

Why would the option of playing the game on Wii U matter when Zelda drops below 30fps on Wii U and has no gamepad features and the multiplayer community moves to Switch? If these ports were released in 3 years then you could make a good point, but they will be out very soon after the original Wii U releases and will have a lot of exclusive content, making the Wii U worthless.