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People should just wait.



Yea what Bathesda is doing is just pure nonsense.

Luckly, lord Gaben gave me a solution and it is called a refund system. So I can pre-order without cares and if the game turns out bad... #Refund



                  

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I've got to say, I find it somewhat amusing to watch some publications fail to mention their OWN vested interest in getting early review code. Are they really concerned that it's anti-consumer or are they more worried that it will have an impact on their business?

It also kind of bugs that expecting consumers to behave intelligently is "anti-consumer". I don't need my hand held. If I'm unsure about the quality of a game, I'll wait until after it releases to buy it, exactly as I do now. Isn't that common sense?



Yeah... This is only anti-consumer for those consumer who MUST have a game on day 1 release.  

Honestly, the real reason I bet this Youtuber is pissed off is that he is cut out on pre-release hype action.
It is ultimately a limited amount of reviewers who are given access to pre-release games for review.
Post-release, ANYBODY and EVERYBODY can review the game, removing the pre-release folks' advantage.

In fact, the pre-release system is MORE anti-consumer, because the Devs control who gets access.
Meaning, they can simply not give copies to people they think are inclined to give poor reviews.
Youtubers/media are incentivized to give a good review because they will get continue to get access if they do.
Sure, not everybody will be corrupt, but the system is biased towards that dynamic.
EDIT: It would be interesting to compare pre-release review scores to post-release scores of the same game.

When consumers wait until after release, they get benefit of much broader spectrum of reviews. 
Pre-release reviews in fact fill a position in between pure dev PR and post-release full freedom reviews.
Their existence only manipulates those who aren't aware of the difference vs. post-release reviews to trust them more.



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They're right tho.



In case you don't like watching videos and like reading instead (like me): the same as an article on Rock, Paper, Shotgun

I'm not convinced giving out review copies, or any kind of copies, in advance is a great thing to do either, but this is definitely anti-consumer. I'm been getting that kind of vibes from Bethesda recently anyway, but this is by far the worst instance yet. It's a pity, because Bethesda's games are generally a lot of fun.



Zkuq said:

I'm not convinced giving out review copies, or any kind of copies, in advance is a great thing to do either, but this is definitely anti-consumer

Wait, what?  So both are anti-consumer?  What does that mean?

Fact is, pre-release reviews are handpicked by company, and are therefore less than indepent and objective.
But they are presented as independent reviews, so people trust them more than overt company PR.
Being the only reviews in the wild for a period of time means people WILL go to them for information, affecting their opinion.
EDIT: AND getting more views because they were out earlier pre-release means they are higher ranked,
better to attract MORE views even post-release when truly independent post-release reviews do come out.
In other words, a very collusive, corruption inclined system, that primarily benefits the few pre-release reviewers.

Getting rid of that system means objective independent reviews will be on the same footing,
and company-promoted reviews will not have the exclusive time window advantage to "queer the pitch".

If you care about objective reviews, you can still purchase on the same date you would have had independent reviews before.
If you don't care about them, you can still purchase on the same release date without objective independent reviews.
The only difference is dropping the non-independent handpicked reviews, which are basically disguised PR.

I don't see how that is anticonsumer to remove one avenue for disguised opinion manipulation by company PR.

I don't see how this is anti-consumer.
It is obvious why media, youtubers etc who were profiting off of pre-release system don't like the change.
It is obvious the conflict of interest between media coopted to PR and actual consumer interest. 



Consumers have a response if they want to take it. Stop pre-ordering Bethesda games. But no, too many gamers love their favourite publishers and will see shit as prime steak if it comes out of their butts (not specific to Bethesda fans), and so the opposite will happen. A lot of gamers (enough for Bethesda to feel vindicated and for other publishers to follow suite) will see the media's negativity to this as the actual evil, and will pre-order with greater fervour than they did before.

I enjoyed the Total Biscuit video on this. Haven't watched the video in the OP. Too many Jim Sterling haters around here to give him props for his take on this. But when TB and Jim Fucking Sterling Son see squarely eye to eye on a subject people should really pay attention.



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I don't see it as anti-consumer. In fact, I wish every publisher would stop sending out free games early for reviews.