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Forums - Sales Discussion - Uncharted 4 surpasses Halo 5 in global total sales

Normchacho on 28 October 2016
Azzanation said:
Normchacho said:

Is that 5 million sold through or shipped? Because game shipments are way less common than console shipments outside of the launch window. A January 2016 shipment of the game could be all of the games stock for 2016.

 

When you claim that it's sold better than Uncharted 4 you're making some big assumptions.

 

You also didn't seem to read the parts of my post where  I say that userbase has an effect on sales, or where I talk about  Uncharted 4 being on the market for less than half the time Halo 5 has been.

How can you ship digital sales? Its been confirmed by 343 that Halo 5 has sold over 5million units. 4million physical at the time which leads to be 1million worth of Digital sales.

Here help yourself

http://wccftech.com/halo-5-sold-5-million-copies-within-3-months/

Userbase plays a massive roll on sales, and considering Halo 5 being one of the worst selling Halo games in the franchise, and UC4 being the best PS4 game on the market and they come out sqaure on sales.. (excluding Digital) that is a compliment to Halo not UC4.

Heres a good stat for the people in this thread.

1 in every 4 XB1 owners has Halo 5

1 in every 8 PS4 owners has UC4

Now until Sony claims UC4 has sold over 5million units, than at this very point in time, Halo 5 has sold more than UC4. This Article and its headline is misleading.

It's total. Shipped retail + sold digital. As has been pointed out several times.

It's a compliment to Halo that the newest game from a series that up to this point has averaged 9.34 million sales is only now falling behind a game from a series that has averaged 6.17 million sales?

Even if you were right, and userbase ment a 1:1 increase it sales (it doesn't). Uncharted 4 has caught up to Halo 5 in less than half the time with less than twice the userbase. So, it would still be outselling Halo 5 if userbase were the same.

Get over it.



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Normchacho on 28 October 2016
LudicrousSpeed said:
aLkaLiNE said:
who gives a fuck.

You, apparently, judging by all the posts on this page alone. Why so defensive about people discussing sales? I really wouldn't have expected people to be this defensive about a sales comparison.

Haha come on Ludicrous, you and I have both been on this site too long for me to believe that. This is par for the course :P



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LudicrousSpeed on 28 October 2016
aLkaLiNE said:
people deliberately spread misinformation

People referencing the Halo developer's post quoting 5 million in sales in 3 months are no more "deliberately spreading misinformation" than you are when you say again and again and again that it's 5 million shipped, not sold, lol.

You even attach the word probably to your opinion. Please stop deliberately spreading misinformation in the form of opinions presented as factual.



LudicrousSpeed on 28 October 2016
Normchacho said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

You, apparently, judging by all the posts on this page alone. Why so defensive about people discussing sales? I really wouldn't have expected people to be this defensive about a sales comparison.

Haha come on Ludicrous, you and I have both been on this site too long for me to believe that. This is par for the course :P

I copied and pasted that from his response. This is just a sales discussion. No one in here is being any more defensive than the other side.



Normchacho on 28 October 2016
LudicrousSpeed said:
Normchacho said:

Haha come on Ludicrous, you and I have both been on this site too long for me to believe that. This is par for the course :P

I copied and pasted that from his response. This is just a sales discussion. No one in here is being any more defensive than the other side.

ooooh alright. Yeah, this is a pretty standard sales thread.



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aLkaLiNE on 28 October 2016
LudicrousSpeed said:
aLkaLiNE said:
people deliberately spread misinformation

People referencing the Halo developer's post quoting 5 million in sales in 3 months are no more "deliberately spreading misinformation" than you are when you say again and again and again that it's 5 million shipped, not sold, lol.

You even attach the word probably to your opinion. Please stop deliberately spreading misinformation in the form of opinions presented as factual.

What misinformation am I spreading? I'm not the one claiming it's sold through 5 million or more because we have no proof of that. The conditions of this thread mean that everyone claiming it sold 5 million or more are the ones spreading misinformation, as there is no proof of that and I'm arguing against it. Then I provided a link to a tweet from an industry analyst who said that its sell in and not sell through. The burden of proof isn't technically on my end, but it would be reasonable to put more faith in a neutral industry analyst than one of the devs who's job has nothing to do with marketing or sales.



Goodnightmoon on 28 October 2016
Azuren said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Yeah well, that's how you see it, I think Splatoon would have sold more on Ps4.

Well, dur. Being a great game aside, multi-platform games typically do better thanks to wider audiences.

I meant Ps4 alone, as an exclusive.



Azuren on 28 October 2016
Goodnightmoon said:
Azuren said:

Well, dur. Being a great game aside, multi-platform games typically do better thanks to wider audiences.

I meant Ps4 alone, as an exclusive.

I dunno, PS4 is a different market. PS4 gamers seem to favor games like Bloodborne, God of War, and Uncharted, whereas games like ModNation Racers and Tearaway fade into obscurity.



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Azzanation on 28 October 2016
Normchacho said:
Azzanation said:

How can you ship digital sales? Its been confirmed by 343 that Halo 5 has sold over 5million units. 4million physical at the time which leads to be 1million worth of Digital sales.

Here help yourself

http://wccftech.com/halo-5-sold-5-million-copies-within-3-months/

Userbase plays a massive roll on sales, and considering Halo 5 being one of the worst selling Halo games in the franchise, and UC4 being the best PS4 game on the market and they come out sqaure on sales.. (excluding Digital) that is a compliment to Halo not UC4.

Heres a good stat for the people in this thread.

1 in every 4 XB1 owners has Halo 5

1 in every 8 PS4 owners has UC4

Now until Sony claims UC4 has sold over 5million units, than at this very point in time, Halo 5 has sold more than UC4. This Article and its headline is misleading.

It's total. Shipped retail + sold digital. As has been pointed out several times.

It's a compliment to Halo that the newest game from a series that up to this point has averaged 9.34 million sales is only now falling behind a game from a series that has averaged 6.17 million sales?

Even if you were right, and userbase ment a 1:1 increase it sales (it doesn't). Uncharted 4 has caught up to Halo 5 in less than half the time with less than twice the userbase. So, it would still be outselling Halo 5 if userbase were the same.

Get over it.

I dont even know where to start with your post. So if Halo shipped 5million in its first 3 month and its been sitting on 4million psyical sales for the past few months than you expect it to still be sitting on 4m sales? Espeacilly when MS came out and said its the highest selling digital game on Xbox *At the time*

It also grossed $400m with combined Software and Hardware sales. How much did UC4 make for Sony?

The way you should look at it is like this - UC4 is Sonys best game on PS4 and it has double the User base *which helps boltster sales* Halo 5 is the lowest selling mainline Halo game in the franchise and it still matches Sony's best. Compliment to Halo 5. UC4 will go on to sell like it usually does around 5 to 6m and Halo 5 will most likely end up the same with half the install base.

If Halo 5 was a PS4 exclusive it would have outsold UC4 quite easily.

Halo 5's attach rate is also twice that of UC4.



Zekkyou on 28 October 2016
Azzanation said:
Normchacho said:

It's total. Shipped retail + sold digital. As has been pointed out several times.

It's a compliment to Halo that the newest game from a series that up to this point has averaged 9.34 million sales is only now falling behind a game from a series that has averaged 6.17 million sales?

Even if you were right, and userbase ment a 1:1 increase it sales (it doesn't). Uncharted 4 has caught up to Halo 5 in less than half the time with less than twice the userbase. So, it would still be outselling Halo 5 if userbase were the same.

Get over it.

I dont even know where to start with your post. So if Halo shipped 5million in its first 3 month and its been sitting on 4million psyical sales for the past few months than you expect it to still be sitting on 4m sales? Espeacilly when MS came out and said its the highest selling digital game on Xbox *At the time*

It also grossed $400m with combined Software and Hardware sales. How much did UC4 make for Sony?

The way you should look at it is like this - UC4 is Sonys best game on PS4 and it has double the User base *which helps boltster sales* Halo 5 is the lowest selling mainline Halo game in the franchise and it still matches Sony's best. Compliment to Halo 5. UC4 will go on to sell like it usually does around 5 to 6m and Halo 5 will most likely end up the same with half the install base.

If Halo 5 was a PS4 exclusive it would have outsold UC4 quite easily.

Halo 5's attach rate is also twice that of UC4.

Just chiming in to note that the bolded is a pretty silly prediction, given UC4 has probably already reached that range (including digital) :p. Halo 5 will almost certainly end up above that too.

If UC4 has similar legs to Uncharted 3, it should end up at 7 - 8 million on here, and 9 - 10 million including digital. That'd put it in the general vicinity of Halo 4, which isn't too shabby.