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ArchangelMadzz on 26 October 2016
Goatseye said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

Well they aren't owned by Microsoft I don't think? So I guess that gives them some freedom.

'The Coalition' devs were working on something then told to do Gears (and with the name change) for the foreseeable future. 

Black Tusk wasn't working on a game, Shangeist was a tech demo. 

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-01-28-whats-happening-with-black-tusks-highly-ambitious-new-ip

Last summer, Microsoft's official @XboxJobs account described the game thus: "Their first project is a highly ambitious, all-original new IP!".

"@BlackTuskStudio has been working on an all original IP since its inception, we've just brought the GOW franchise into our portfolio and have not yet determined the future of the new IP at this point," the account wrote.




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Goatseye on 26 October 2016
ArchangelMadzz said:
Goatseye said:

Black Tusk wasn't working on a game, Shangeist was a tech demo. 

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-01-28-whats-happening-with-black-tusks-highly-ambitious-new-ip

Last summer, Microsoft's official @XboxJobs account described the game thus: "Their first project is a highly ambitious, all-original new IP!".

"@BlackTuskStudio has been working on an all original IP since its inception, we've just brought the GOW franchise into our portfolio and have not yet determined the future of the new IP at this point," the account wrote.

Their project didn't get off the drawing board, it was mere tech demo. I think Phil or Rod said this after questions arose whenever Gears was acquired.



JRPGfan on 26 October 2016
vivster said:
So he's saying it's not making Amazing Progress?

“How do I put this? Well, the developer… the developer has to want to make the game.”

 

NobleTeam360 said:
"Has to want to make the game", sounds like it's not even in development yet by that statement.

Yep.. sounds like that.



ArchangelMadzz on 26 October 2016
Goatseye said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-01-28-whats-happening-with-black-tusks-highly-ambitious-new-ip

Last summer, Microsoft's official @XboxJobs account described the game thus: "Their first project is a highly ambitious, all-original new IP!".

"@BlackTuskStudio has been working on an all original IP since its inception, we've just brought the GOW franchise into our portfolio and have not yet determined the future of the new IP at this point," the account wrote.

Their project didn't get off the drawing board, it was mere tech demo. I think Phil or Rod said this after questions arose whenever Gears was acquired.

Sounds like damage control.

Microsoft was clearly saying something different from what I posted above.



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2 Hairstyles for female characters: Long and 'Political Agenda'
2 Sexualities: Straight and 'Political Agenda'

Goatseye on 26 October 2016
ArchangelMadzz said:
Goatseye said:

Their project didn't get off the drawing board, it was mere tech demo. I think Phil or Rod said this after questions arose whenever Gears was acquired.

Sounds like damage control.

Microsoft was clearly saying something different from what I posted above.

Damage control over what?

You want them to put Gears on backburner in the name of "diverse" library?



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ArchangelMadzz on 26 October 2016
Goatseye said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

Sounds like damage control.

Microsoft was clearly saying something different from what I posted above.

Damage control over what?

You want them to put Gears on backburner in the name of "diverse" library?

Damage control to the criticism they got for taking away new IP for an Older IP with 4 titles and the last of which wasn't received very well. 

It's obvious from their statements it wasn't just a tech demo. 

Hey it worked out Gears 4 got raving reviews, I'm just saying the claim it was just a tech demo is likely false. 



There's only 2 races: White and 'Political Agenda'
2 Genders: Male and 'Political Agenda'
2 Hairstyles for female characters: Long and 'Political Agenda'
2 Sexualities: Straight and 'Political Agenda'

Goatseye on 26 October 2016
ArchangelMadzz said:
Goatseye said:

Damage control over what?

You want them to put Gears on backburner in the name of "diverse" library?

Damage control to the criticism they got for taking away new IP for an Older IP with 4 titles and the last of which wasn't received very well. 

It's obvious from their statements it wasn't just a tech demo. 

Hey it worked out Gears 4 got raving reviews, I'm just saying the claim it was just a tech demo is likely false. 

Bro...

Judgement was made in Poland, when Rod and Cliff were out of Epic.

The statement you posted above is from who? Eurogamer?



ArchangelMadzz on 26 October 2016
Goatseye said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

Damage control to the criticism they got for taking away new IP for an Older IP with 4 titles and the last of which wasn't received very well. 

It's obvious from their statements it wasn't just a tech demo. 

Hey it worked out Gears 4 got raving reviews, I'm just saying the claim it was just a tech demo is likely false. 

Bro...

Judgement was made in Poland, when Rod and Cliff were out of Epic.

The statement you posted above is from who? Eurogamer?

Did I say who made it?

I'm going to post it again seeing as you didn't look at it properly. I'lll even bold the important bit.

Last summer, Microsoft's official @XboxJobs account described the game thus: "Their first project is a highly ambitious, all-original new IP!".



There's only 2 races: White and 'Political Agenda'
2 Genders: Male and 'Political Agenda'
2 Hairstyles for female characters: Long and 'Political Agenda'
2 Sexualities: Straight and 'Political Agenda'

Goatseye on 26 October 2016
ArchangelMadzz said:
Goatseye said:

Bro...

Judgement was made in Poland, when Rod and Cliff were out of Epic.

The statement you posted above is from who? Eurogamer?

Did I say who made it?

I'm going to post it again seeing as you didn't look at it properly. I'lll even bold the important bit.

Last summer, Microsoft's official @XboxJobs account described the game thus: "Their first project is a highly ambitious, all-original new IP!".

Eurogamer stated it was a game, which probably didn't have any interactive parts.
Anyway old news but here:
http://www.icxm.net/x/gears-choice-coalition.html



ArchangelMadzz on 26 October 2016
Goatseye said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

Did I say who made it?

I'm going to post it again seeing as you didn't look at it properly. I'lll even bold the important bit.

Last summer, Microsoft's official @XboxJobs account described the game thus: "Their first project is a highly ambitious, all-original new IP!".

Eurogamer stated it was a game, which probably didn't have any interactive parts.
Anyway old news but here:
http://www.icxm.net/x/gears-choice-coalition.html

I'm not talking about what Eurogamer said I'm talking about what Microsoft said. 

And again from Microsoft. "@BlackTuskStudio has been working on an all original IP since its inception, we've just brought the GOW franchise into our portfolio and have not yet determined the future of the new IP at this point," the account wrote.

I've looked at your source and it seems you have conceeded to the fact that it was a new IP and not a tech demo?


Edit: the source for the article you posted says,

"You don’t spend a year and a half working on a game without getting attached to it."


It wasn't a tech demo.





There's only 2 races: White and 'Political Agenda'
2 Genders: Male and 'Political Agenda'
2 Hairstyles for female characters: Long and 'Political Agenda'
2 Sexualities: Straight and 'Political Agenda'