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Vasto said:
This just makes me wonder if Project Scorpio will be able to do it.

I expect some not quite AAA multiplat titles will run at native 4k on Scorpio and upscaled 4K on PS4 pro. But for the eye candy AAA games Scorpio and PS4P will both be upscaled 4K.

resolution beyond 1080p is a waste on me since I have no 4K screen. So the less resource devs put into 4K and the more they put into stability, effects, textures etc the better.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

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starcraft said:
This is just a wash, rinse, repeat of the last few generations arguments.

First it was the Xbox's slight power and occasional resolution differential over the PS2, then it was all about the huge difference a here-and-there resolution difference would make to the PS3's library over the 360's, more recently its been about how 1-200 extra horizontal lines of resolution makes the PS4 enormously more powerful than the Xbox One.

The reasons this is getting more attention than usual are mainly two fold:

1. Its been a long time since Sony fans have faced being on the losing end of a resolution/most powerful console debate (largely due to Sony's admirable commitment (in my opinion) to powerful and high quality hardware) and they are not taking it very well, reversing course on the importance of resolution etc.

2. Its been a long time since Xbox fans faced being on the winning end of a resolution/most powerful console debate, (largely due to the stupid decision to spend hardware budget on Kinect) and some of them are failing to be the bigger person and having too much fun with it.

Ironically, the jump to 4k resolution could be the first major change in visual acuity seen in consoles since the switch to 'high def,' if Microsoft pulls it off correctly. As Zekkyou has already noted, there are a range of reasons why that is not entirely likely.

 

This is a good summary of what is happening and it all comes down to a shift in the way people are arguing.

Many Playstation people think that their system is the better one because better games - this goes down all the way to the PSX but really grew with PS2. This is why you always see the "Gears/Halo/Forza" argument, leaving out other games intentionally.

Also WW brand recognition is what Sony is strong with and power is of course not an argument why the PS4 is successful.

Now with Scorpio on the horizon, we see a lot of people arguing about a console that isn't even released but will easily outperform the PS4P which easily outperforms the PS4 which many people bought with in mind that they bought the "superior" console, only to be outperformed next year. What many don't see is that this doesn't mean their current system is not getting worse - it will work like before.

And given that Sony has better and more games, combined with WW brand awareness, they should still feel superior because they are still with "team win" but as one can see in recent forum discussions, there seems to be a "disturbance in the force" and this is what I think is apparent and what I was trying to address in the other thread about Scorpio when I was wondering why many people even care and express theirself like they do.



Landguy said:
This whole topic is funny. Again this whole "resolution" topic is typical of the PS4 apologists. When the PS4pro will produce a marginally less resolution than the Scorpio, it is now insignificant and doesn't matter. When the original XB1 produced a marginally less resolution that the PS4, it was really significant.

In both cases it is just funny.

Your post makes no sense without you proving that the same people said both things.



Was not expecting it. I already know we won't be seeing it much for AAAs. That'll likely be the next platform.



vivster said:
No wonder. I heard not even the Blurays are native 4k.

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Lawlight said:
Landguy said:
This whole topic is funny. Again this whole "resolution" topic is typical of the PS4 apologists. When the PS4pro will produce a marginally less resolution than the Scorpio, it is now insignificant and doesn't matter. When the original XB1 produced a marginally less resolution that the PS4, it was really significant.

In both cases it is just funny.

Your post makes no sense without you proving that the same people said both things.

Did you post this as a real response or a Joke?  If you want to do an audit of the hundreds of threads dicussing all the resolution differences of EVERY multiplat game released in the first 2 years of the XB1/PS4, go ahead.  I don't know how you could even try to argue that was not a main topic for literally YEARS.  If you really believe that, there is no point to discuss it with you. 



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Landguy said:
Lawlight said:

Your post makes no sense without you proving that the same people said both things.

Did you post this as a real response or a Joke?  If you want to do an audit of the hundreds of threads dicussing all the resolution differences of EVERY multiplat game released in the first 2 years of the XB1/PS4, go ahead.  I don't know how you could even try to argue that was not a main topic for literally YEARS.  If you really believe that, there is no point to discuss it with you. 

So? Unless you can prove that it's the same group of people playing both sides of the argument you cannot say "typical of Sony apologists". You have no ground to stand on so, of course, you would say there's no point in discussing it with me.



Lawlight said:
Landguy said:

Did you post this as a real response or a Joke?  If you want to do an audit of the hundreds of threads dicussing all the resolution differences of EVERY multiplat game released in the first 2 years of the XB1/PS4, go ahead.  I don't know how you could even try to argue that was not a main topic for literally YEARS.  If you really believe that, there is no point to discuss it with you. 

So? Unless you can prove that it's the same group of people playing both sides of the argument you cannot say "typical of Sony apologists". You have no ground to stand on so, of course, you would say there's no point in discussing it with me.

I could say the same to you, prove I am wrong...  Go ahead, you do the rsearch and prove it.  

 

You see, that is what you are saying to me.  If you think an OP or posting party is wrong, it is you that needs to bring links or supporting info to the party.

I await your proof.



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Landguy said:
Lawlight said:

So? Unless you can prove that it's the same group of people playing both sides of the argument you cannot say "typical of Sony apologists". You have no ground to stand on so, of course, you would say there's no point in discussing it with me.

I could say the same to you, prove I am wrong...  Go ahead, you do the rsearch and prove it.  

 

You see, that is what you are saying to me.  If you think an OP or posting party is wrong, it is you that needs to bring links or supporting info to the party.

I await your proof.

The burden of proof is usually on the one who makes the initial claim. It's the same line of logic as "innocent until proven guilty", etc. People have to prove their own claims right, not others wrong. In this instance you'd struggle though, since calling out users not involved in a discussion isn't aloud :p

Now personally, yes, i have seen examples of what you describe (PlayStation fans whose position on IQ has shifted with the Pro and Scorpio). I've likewise seen a proportionally similar number of instances of Xbox fans shifting their position too though. That you don't acknowledge that in your initial post kind of undermines the point, at least in my eyes.