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Lawlight said:
onionberry said:

no, just a different lie

http://www.vg247.com/2014/08/06/killzone-shadow-fall-lawsuit-resolution-false-advertising-temporal-reprojection-1080p/

Not only was this case dimissed but the case only applied to multiplayer. There was also no false advertising because as Guerilla said:

"In both SP and MP, Killzone Shadow Fall outputs a full, unscaled 1080p image at up to 60 fps. Native is often used to indicate images that are not scaled; it is native by that definition."

So, not only is this non-applicable but it's also a completely different scenario.

thank god, sony are saints.



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Maybe it will be even better!



onionberry said:
potato_hamster said:

... simulated screens are not the dishonesty. The contents of those simulated screens are.

what content?

zelda, it's coming

mario, it's coming

splatoon, it's coming

nba, 2k said "we are excited to be a partner for the Nintendo Switch and was great to help Nintendo with the trailer, we are gonna support the console but we can't confirm games at this time"

Skyrim, "we are thrilled to be a publishing partner with Nintendo, we can't confirm any game at this time"

can't confirm at this time =/= not coming

the end of the trailer says "game footage not final; graphics and features subject to change"

so, where is the dishonesty?

You're right. Dishonesty wasn't the right word to use there. I apologize.



potato_hamster said:
onionberry said:

what content?

zelda, it's coming

mario, it's coming

splatoon, it's coming

nba, 2k said "we are excited to be a partner for the Nintendo Switch and was great to help Nintendo with the trailer, we are gonna support the console but we can't confirm games at this time"

Skyrim, "we are thrilled to be a publishing partner with Nintendo, we can't confirm any game at this time"

can't confirm at this time =/= not coming

the end of the trailer says "game footage not final; graphics and features subject to change"

so, where is the dishonesty?

You're right. Dishonesty wasn't the right word to use there. I apologize.

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I wouldn't doubt that the games shown are coming to Switch.
It's very likely though that the footage is heavily doctored to make games look better than they are.



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Based on the wording I think they mean that one or more of the games shown are really just demos. Similar to the Zelda demo shown with Wii U. I don't think they should be showing things like that this close to launch, it strongly gives the impression that the game shown is coming and hints that it would be a launch title.



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Barozi said:
I wouldn't doubt that the games shown are coming to Switch.
It's very likely though that the footage is heavily doctored to make games look better than they are.


See that's the thing that is stirring the pot a little. In some cases, the "gameplay video" actually isn't running very well. This is leading to some confusion from all sides.

Is Skyrim or NBA 2K likely coming to the Switch? I really hope for Nintendo's sake that they are, because I genuinely do not feel that Nintendo is going to keep making hardware if the Switch tanks, and like the X1 has shown, the release of a console can be absolutely critical. The last thing Nintendo needs is the backlash from showing widely known and beloved games in their announcement trailer that currently have no plans of being developed for the NS. That would be a total disaster.

It's just super annoying as someone who enjoyed the Wii, and really wants to see Nintendo reverse its gradual loss of influence in the industry, there are so many little things that would take preview trailer and make it 1000 times better. For example, release a spec sheet of the console after the trailer drops. Release high resolution images for the press to use. Answer some basic questions about the console is a more clear and cocise way, because any ambiguity this close to the release of the console introduces doubt in the minds of prospective buyers.

Like in this case, all Nintendo had to say was "While all game footage in the trailer represents titles that are in development for the Nintendo Switch, you shouldn't assume what you saw on the video represents actual Switch game footage". Is that so hard? That doesn't hurt anything, except eliminate a variable. Any policy that prevents them from saying such a thing is a bad policy.

All of those who are speculating about how the graphics processor of the NS might not be finalized, and that Nvidia is cooking up some super powerful highly custom chip. We are FIVE MONTHS from the release of the console, that decision has to have been made 8-10 months before release at the earliest. If that is the case, if they are still trying to work out the yields for this super custom chip, it makes you wonder how prepared Nintendo actually is for the release of this console. They could quash all of this nonsense with one simple spec sheet, and then they can just focus on hyping gamers on their new console rather than sorting through the confusion.

Nintendo needs to do better here, they will sell more consoles and create more hype if they do. That is, unless they're being vague because there's gremlins lurking unneath the surface of the NS, that they want to keep quiet until they can no longer hold back. I don't think any video game fan really wants that to be the case though. A humbly successful Nintendo is good for the video game industry as a whole, there's no denying that.




potato_hamster said:
Barozi said:
I wouldn't doubt that the games shown are coming to Switch.
It's very likely though that the footage is heavily doctored to make games look better than they are.


See that's the thing that is stirring the pot a little. In some cases, the "gameplay video" actually isn't running very well. This is leading to some confusion from all sides.

Is Skyrim or NBA 2K likely coming to the Switch? I really hope for Nintendo's sake that they are, because I genuinely do not feel that Nintendo is going to keep making hardware if the Switch tanks, and like the X1 has shown, the release of a console can be absolutely critical. The last thing Nintendo needs is the backlash from showing widely known and beloved games in their announcement trailer that currently have no plans of being developed for the NS. That would be a total disaster.

It's just super annoying as someone who enjoyed the Wii, and really wants to see Nintendo reverse its gradual loss of influence in the industry, there are so many little things that would take preview trailer and make it 1000 times better. For example, release a spec sheet of the console after the trailer drops. Release high resolution images for the press to use. Answer some basic questions about the console is a more clear and cocise way, because any ambiguity this close to the release of the console introduces doubt in the minds of prospective buyers.

Like in this case, all Nintendo had to say was "While all game footage in the trailer represents titles that are in development for the Nintendo Switch, you shouldn't assume what you saw on the video represents actual Switch game footage". Is that so hard? That doesn't hurt anything, except eliminate a variable. Any policy that prevents them from saying such a thing is a bad policy.

All of those who are speculating about how the graphics processor of the NS might not be finalized, and that Nvidia is cooking up some super powerful highly custom chip. We are FIVE MONTHS from the release of the console, that decision has to have been made 8-10 months before release at the earliest. If that is the case, if they are still trying to work out the yields for this super custom chip, it makes you wonder how prepared Nintendo actually is for the release of this console. They could quash all of this nonsense with one simple spec sheet, and then they can just focus on hyping gamers on their new console rather than sorting through the confusion.

Nintendo needs to do better here, they will sell more consoles and create more hype if they do. That is, unless they're being vague because there's gremlins lurking unneath the surface of the NS, that they want to keep quiet until they can no longer hold back. I don't think any video game fan really wants that to be the case though. A humbly successful Nintendo is good for the video game industry as a whole, there's no denying that.


What stops 2k and Bethesda? They should already have tweeted whether these were coming out. It makes no since that they haven't except for the fact they don't want the backlash.



If you look on the official page, Skyrim SE is not listed for preorder for the Switch, nor is the Switch logo on the webpage. That speaks volumes, even if the game will come to the switch.



bigtakilla said:

What stops 2k and Bethesda? They should already have tweeted whether these were coming out. It makes no since that they haven't except for the fact they don't want the backlash.

The backlash of Nintendo itself perhaps...

It's likely that almost no 3rd party support can speak about software until Nintendo has done so in 2017. Hence the similar statements about software from both company when they responded to the introduction of the NS.

Look at nvidea who said nothing at all untill now. Nintendo has likely NDA's on everything. A software NDA is very likely.

Odd though that SE could announce it. Maybe they got some deal on that announcement.



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