CNET: How the PS4 Pro made me a believer

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Lawlight on 25 October 2016

CGI-Quality said:
Let's remember not to post too may replies in a row. :)

Multi-quotes don't work on mobile.

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Lawlight on 25 October 2016

greenmedic88 said:

Lawlight said:

Digital Foundry about Days Gone:

I observed the pixel structure on a 65-inch Sony 4K display from just two feet away, and then I moved closer. It looked good, seriously good. There is a slight softness compared to the pin-sharp precision of a native 4K presentation, but even close-up, the effect works well - in a living room environment, it should work just fine.

If you think you can discern pixels better than DF, then there's nothing else to add. Other than maybe this from the video you linked:

"Even if it is no native 4K, it does not need to be to show a big increase in picture quality over 1080p". So, my guess is that if someone says they can spot the difference in a living then they'd be deceiving themselves.

At normal living room distances, sure. I said that.

One would be deceiving themselves if they said they could distinguish the difference between a 40" 1080p display and a 40" 4K display at a distance of about maybe 15 feet with normal 20/20 vision.

The argument being pressed is that there is no difference to which I disagree.

But we're not talking about 1080p v 4k here. We're talking about PS4Pro's 4k reconstruction vs 4k. But to your point, 40" is not enough for anyone to systematically differentiate between 1080p and 4k.

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LivingMetal on 25 October 2016

Lawlight said:

greenmedic88 said:

At normal living room distances, sure. I said that.

One would be deceiving themselves if they said they could distinguish the difference between a 40" 1080p display and a 40" 4K display at a distance of about maybe 15 feet with normal 20/20 vision.

The argument being pressed is that there is no difference to which I disagree.

But we're not talking about 1080p v 4k here. We're talking about PS4Pro's 4k reconstruction vs 4k. But to your point, 40" is not enough for anyone to systematically differentiate between 1080p and 4k.

In my personal experience and opinion, 50 inches and over is suitable for 4K. Anything less isn't justifiable.

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greenmedic88 on 25 October 2016

LivingMetal said:

Lawlight said:

But we're not talking about 1080p v 4k here. We're talking about PS4Pro's 4k reconstruction vs 4k. But to your point, 40" is not enough for anyone to systematically differentiate between 1080p and 4k.

In my personal experience and opinion, 50 inches and over is suitable for 4K. Anything less isn't justifiable.

Usually 40" and under is more of a computer display than a TV, but the difference (as it's been since about 2007) more or less boils down to whether the display has a tuner built in and more relevant, the intended use.

Most 4k displays connected to PCs are desktop set ups; either sitting on the desk at normal typing distances, or mounted to a swing mount.

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d21lewis on 26 October 2016

Paid for the preorder last night. Day one owner right here. I'm excited!

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DonFerrari on 26 October 2016

Lawlight said:

CGI-Quality said:
Let's remember not to post too may replies in a row. :)

Multi-quotes don't work on mobile.

CGI-Quality said:

Lawlight said:

Multi-quotes don't work on mobile.

I'm aware, but that doesn't change the issue of multiple quotes in a row, especially when the poster I'm talking about didn't quote four different people.

Mine have been working... Android on a Sony M4.