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Mummelmann on 23 October 2016
padib said:
Mummelmann said:

Simple question? Do you believe there is any legitimate criticism to be had over the concept and teaser or is it all simply garble?I'm not asking you to talk shit about it, just want to know if you can see any actual fault or at least potential problem with it as it stands. It can be far in between positive response and actual purchase (and the response isn't quite as spectacular as some make it seem either).

PS: Even if the vast majority doesn't find something or someone persuasive, that doesn't mean that they are right not to be persuaded. There was a time when the vast majority believed the earth was flat or that the sun revolved around the earth. Not that it is remotely similar, but just food for thought.

Mummel, the OP isn't worded that way at all.

He's not saying that he would have preferred a full unveiling, he's saying they're reveal was lacking and then compares it to a full unveiling, not mentioning anywhere an understanding that it was a teaser.

It's bait and switch.

I'm asking it as a general question now. Many posters seem to be of the opinion that there simply is nothing to criticize about the NS concept and the teaser, I'm merely curious if jumpin is one of these users. There's a middle ground between ultimate doom and full on blazing glory, something this site seems to have forgotten, or perhaps never knew at all.

What about you, do you see any potential problems with the concept and the teaser?



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zorg1000 on 23 October 2016
PwerlvlAmy said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Not really, I think is just the imperative need of putting everything Nintendo related on a bad light.

They showed a concept that people has quickly understood and is getting quite a positive buzz. The only reason they are not giving more info is to not overshadow 3DS and Mini Nes this holidays. after that they have 3 months to fully detail everything we don't know and use the momentum to have good numbers at release.

If Nintendo isnt put into a bad light,then the world would be thrown off balance.

 

However it is a flub that they are waiting till jan for more details 

did they really say no more info until next year ot was that quote taken out of context?

WSJ's Takashi Mochizuki clarified that "no more official announcement would come this year on 1) game titles 2) spec details, including region-lock status."

That doesnt seem to mean no info, just specs and official lineup



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

zorg1000 on 23 October 2016
Why is it that Sony can succeed without any gimmicks?

 

I think this is a great question and one that not even Ninty themselves know

Its not a great question and is irrelevent, besides the main concept of Switch isn't even a gimmick.

A gimmick is typcially defined as a special feature for the sake of having a special feature or in other words something that doesn't really have a functional purpose.

The concept of having a single device that can be played at home or on the go is not a gimmick, it serves an actual purpose for Nintendo and consumers.

Consolidating their development teams and combining the support from their handheld & consoles serves an actual purpose.

Allowing consumers to have access to all Nintendo games without having to buy two completely seperate devices with little in common serves an actual purpose.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

GProgrammer on 23 October 2016

The switch's greatest problem can be summed up best with the following images
If the other home consoles can be visualized like this

The switch in comparison can be visualized like this

Its just too under-powered, its going to suffer the same fate as the Wii U, no 3rd party software



Culipechi on 23 October 2016

Nope



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oniyide on 23 October 2016
zorg1000 said:

I think this is a great question and one that not even Ninty themselves know

Its not a great question and is irrelevent, besides the main concept of Switch isn't even a gimmick.

A gimmick is typcially defined as a special feature for the sake of having a special feature or in other words something that doesn't really have a functional purpose.

The concept of having a single device that can be played at home or on the go is not a gimmick, it serves an actual purpose for Nintendo and consumers.

Consolidating their development teams and combining the support from their handheld & consoles serves an actual purpose.

Allowing consumers to have access to all Nintendo games without having to buy two completely seperate devices with little in common serves an actual purpose.

I think its a great question and thats what matters to me. You dont think it is, that is your opinion. Fact remains Sony systems have sold without having some kind of gimmick, hook, whatever you want to call it, but now we're getting off topic.

I didnt even say Switch was a gimmick. I actually think its fine. No doom over here. 



oniyide on 23 October 2016
GProgrammer said:

The switch's greatest problem can be summed up best with the following images
If the other home consoles can be visualized like this

The switch in comparison can be visualized like this

Its just too under-powered, its going to suffer the same fate as the Wii U, no 3rd party software

Ninty's been lacking in 3rd party since N64, why people think this was going to change is beyond me. Its not just power being an issue. Ninty is simply NOT going to do the things that Sony and MS have and are willing to do to get those games. You think Ninty gonna play the moneyhat game? I doubt it, would love to be wrong.



DonFerrari on 23 October 2016

Certainly Nintendo could have communicated better.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

VitaminZ on 23 October 2016

OP's post is spot on with my concerns.

I too fear its going to be overpriced, and under powered. Too weak to be a home console, too big to be a portable, and just ends up as another Nintendo failure.



Azzanation on 23 October 2016

Someone like myself who doesnt like Consoles or sees no point in the console market. The Switch has me very interested. Regardless of its hardware sales, which people on here tend to make it the be all end all reason to what makes a console worth it. The Switch is going to offer atleast another half a decade of amazing Nintendo games. Finially i can put my laptop down and start using the Switch for my portable gaming.

Also just to add. Nintendo keeps making money so theres no reason to jump on them like there bleeding like Sega. They have dozens of portable inhouse companies that will be making games for the Switch. Expect a library of games as big as the WiiU and 3DS combine. To me 3rd party is only a bonus because im  buying this solely for Nintendo games which im expecting there to be heaps since now there home and portible divisions will be making games on the same platform. I could live off the 3DS and WiiU library alone, anything else is just a bonus. As for the brand, there alot bigger than most like to think.