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"bad"gimmick would be something like motion controls or second screen gameplay, because that would change the game design and we don't want that anymore, at least not for a third time. Here, we have different options of functionality, that's the gimmick, functionality. But the games are not based on gimmicks, you can play breath of the wild with the pro controller, the joycon controllers (detached or together) on your tv or on the tablet, but, it's the same game. You don't have to swing the wii remote, guide kirby with a stylus or look at the second screen, it's pure gameplay with different options.

now tell me why I'm wrong and why I'm a Nintendo fangirl.



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A "bad" gimmick is the one that does not sell consoles to casuals.

A gimmick is bad for a lot of gamers looking for core gaming experiences. I don't see a problem with the Switch in this regard.

The biggest thing the Switch has going on for it is that apparently it will get that handheld Nintendo software that sells a lot in Japan (Monster Hunter/Pokemon) and the West (Pokemon).

If this happens then I see the Switch selling better than the Wii U. If Nintendo makes portable versions of Switch games for 3DS or launches another handheld that competes with that same Switch console and gets that software, then Switch sales may take a hit.



Nintendo is selling their IPs to Microsoft and this is true because:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=221391&page=1

Me thinks you have a point.



I think its too soon to call it "good or bad."

The reason is battery life.

If the battery life is poor (3 hours) than the gimmick is bad. Because at that point, its not very portable and they should have just made it an actual console. Cause what that would do is let us have more power with an arch that is exactly like the other two and perhaps a Bluray player which would make it easier for third parties to port games as well as other benefits.

Now I know that with western third parties, we won't know whether or not that is the reason that will make them port game to the NS but it would have certainly given them less excuses... Cause now they are gonna be like, oh its not as powerful as X1 (if it isn't), oh its ARM and not x86, Oh its Nvidia and not AMD. Blah Blah Blah

If the battery life is good (5+ hours) then I agree, the gimmick this time around isn't bad at all.



                  

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Captain_Yuri said:
I think its too soon to call it "good or bad."

The reason is battery life.

If the battery life is poor (3 hours) than the gimmick is bad. Because at they point, its not very portable and they should have just made it an actual console. Cause what that would do is let us have more power with an arch that is exactly like the other two and perhaps a Bluray player which would make it easier for third parties to port games as well as other benefits.

Now I know that with western third parties, we won't know whether or not that is the reason that will make them port game to the NS but it would have certainly given them less excuses...

If the battery life is good (5+ hours) then I agree, the gimmick this time around isn't bad at all.

I'm not too worried about the battery life because there are going to be third party batteries or even from Nintendo like the high capacity battery. But hopefully the one that comes with the console is good enough. Anyways, it's good that the game design is not going to be affected by their needs of being creative.



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onionberry said:

"bad"gimmick would be something like motion controls or second screen gameplay, because that would change the game design and we don't want that anymore, at least not for a third time.

now tell me why I'm wrong and why I'm a Nintendo fangirl.

The question is, will you say "we don't want that anymore" when and if Nintendo uses another gimmick after the Switch? Like you saying: "Nintendo, what the fuck are you doing, we don't want that gimmick shit anymore!"

If you say the above for an upcoming Nintendo console, then we can talk fangirling. It's easy to criticize old consoles for the sake of argument. :P



Nintendo is selling their IPs to Microsoft and this is true because:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=221391&page=1

onionberry said:
Captain_Yuri said:
I think its too soon to call it "good or bad."

The reason is battery life.

If the battery life is poor (3 hours) than the gimmick is bad. Because at they point, its not very portable and they should have just made it an actual console. Cause what that would do is let us have more power with an arch that is exactly like the other two and perhaps a Bluray player which would make it easier for third parties to port games as well as other benefits.

Now I know that with western third parties, we won't know whether or not that is the reason that will make them port game to the NS but it would have certainly given them less excuses...

If the battery life is good (5+ hours) then I agree, the gimmick this time around isn't bad at all.

I'm not too worried about the battery life because there are going to be third party batteries or even from Nintendo like the high capacity battery. But hopefully the one that comes with the console is good enough. Anyways, it's good that the game design is not going to be affected by their needs of being creative.

Yea but that's not a good reason... If it wants to be portable, Nintendo shouldn't half-ass the portability. Every tablet that sells these days have a 10 hour battery life. Now I am not asking for 10 hours but at least 5. Saying that I have to buy additional stuff because Nintendo/Nvidia didn't think about the basics is not a good excuse...

I agree that its good that the game design isn't going to be affected but this gimmick still can be considered a bad one. And it certainly will by the reviewers if thats what the battery life is. 



                  

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Captain_Yuri said:

Yea but that's not a good reason... If it wants to be portable, Nintendo shouldn't half-ass the portability. Every tablet that sells these days have a 10 hour battery life. Now I am not asking for 10 hours but at least 5. Saying that I have to buy additional stuff because Nintendo didn't think about the basics is not a good excuse...

I agree that its good that the game design isn't going to be affected but this gimmick still can be considered a bad one. And it certainly will by the reviewers if thats what the battery life is. 

Do Japanese trains have power sockets? If we get to know this we can have an idea of how well Switch is going to sell in Japan.



Nintendo is selling their IPs to Microsoft and this is true because:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=221391&page=1

AbbathTheGrim said:
onionberry said:

"bad"gimmick would be something like motion controls or second screen gameplay, because that would change the game design and we don't want that anymore, at least not for a third time.

now tell me why I'm wrong and why I'm a Nintendo fangirl.

The question is, will you say "we don't want that anymore" when and if Nintendo uses another gimmick after the Switch? Like you saying: "Nintendo, what the fuck are you doing, we don't want that gimmick shit anymore!"

If you say the above for an upcoming Nintendo console, then we can talk fangirling. It's easy to criticize old consoles for the sake of argument. :P

I said at least for the third time. I like gimmicks but I'm kinda tired of Miyamoto trying to figure out what he's going to do with the second screen instead of thinking what new mechanic could change the gameplay like z targeting, the sanity meter or new mario power ups



AbbathTheGrim said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Yea but that's not a good reason... If it wants to be portable, Nintendo shouldn't half-ass the portability. Every tablet that sells these days have a 10 hour battery life. Now I am not asking for 10 hours but at least 5. Saying that I have to buy additional stuff because Nintendo didn't think about the basics is not a good excuse...

I agree that its good that the game design isn't going to be affected but this gimmick still can be considered a bad one. And it certainly will by the reviewers if thats what the battery life is. 

Do Japanese trains have power sockets? If we get to know this we can have an idea of how well Switch is going to sell in Japan.

Idk. Wouldn't be surprised if they do.



                  

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