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AT&T to buy Time Warner for $85.4 billion

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People should learn that the time of robber barons never ended. They are now global :(.



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I see baby bells in the future again.

I wonder how many are old enough on here to remember AT&T bell breakup.



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Ka-pi96 said:

I know Europe does, I`ve even seen them be used before, but the US... Well I`ve heard that certain states only have like 1 internet provider so obviously monopolies are allowed there.

Besides, I`m not sure this would even qualify as a monopoly. As far as I`m aware AT&T are about providing the content while Time Warner actually produce it. So they`re kind of separate, albeit similar, industries.

They're completely related because being a provider, you can hoard content produced by companies and take it away from other customers who then are required to get a huge bundle for one type of content.

It's a mess.



That's probably bad, they'll make ridiculous exclusive deals with the ones who are leasing the most bandwidth from them, probably. Service providers and entertainment producers should not one and the same, especially not this size.



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I don't think it'll be that successful. Content distributors are most successful by having all content. Content producers are most successful by being on all platforms. Neither entity can be successful by restricting the options of the other. There is a reason Time Warner split in two in the first place.

Also, how has Comcast - NBC Universal materially changed either business line? We don't see Comcast offering only NBC networks, and we don't see NBC networks only available on Comcast.

I'm not concerned from a monopoly perspective. The only segments that AT&T is or would be the leader in is pay tv and landline phones. These are both declining industries, with new technologies that have more customers. Verizon has more cell phone subscribers than AT&T has landline, and Netflix has more tv subscribers than Uverse/DirectTV.



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HandofPrometheus said:
I wish I had that kind of money to spend damn.

The thing is AT&T doesn't have that kind of money they are going into debt to aquire Time Warner if the deal is approved.



NobleTeam360 said:
Hopefully regulators block the deal.

But when was the last time regulators actually blocked a big deal they didn't do anything about Anheuser-Bush InBev and SABMiller merging and they now control 25% of the worlds beer market (even bigger in NA since the big three Miller, Coors and Budweiser are now owned by one company).



Chris Hu said:
NobleTeam360 said:
Hopefully regulators block the deal.

But when was the last time regulators actually blocked a big deal they didn't do anything about Anheuser-Bush InBev and SABMiller merging and they now control 25% of the worlds beer market (even bigger in NA since the big three Miller, Coors and Budweiser are now owned by one company).

Noone will really oppose it. Washington bows to it's corporate masters since 1913.



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I assume it comes with a lot of real state as well and some equipament, which probably get around the 3 billion dollar value.
This means intangible assets bought by 82 billion dollars! So very interesting.
That includes names of brands, magazines, papers, entertainment fanchises, things like that.
I assume everything generates around 2-3 billion worldwide in regular profit, without any kind of investiments.
I guess that Harry Potter movie rights are in the mix, this is probably a 10-20 billion dollars profit oportunity.
Well, seems like the whole deal is far from being a bargain, but AT&T must have a business plan to take the best of all of this.
I wonder if all the rights of Batman universe belong to Warner, there is a billion dollar amusement park here in Brasil (called Hopi Hari) that has a DC comics land with rides based in Batman, Penguin, Superman...

I guess these type of places generate a decent amount of revenue.



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I'm pretty sure that place just pays Time Warner a licensing fee.  The same thing applies to the Six Flags theme parks which are no longer owned by Time Warner but still have rides based on DC comics.