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Overpriced. 36 40.91%
 
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John2290 said:
potato_hamster said:

Two million down... 73 million and counting to go.

PSVR should be bigger than PS4... ohh wait, yep! I know this! Never.

An easy 2.5 million now if not more, most likely more. Anyway, be negative all you want, it's all you ever seem to do in VR threads. What has you so jaded there that you go to VR threads exclaiming your dislike and dismay at "how badly VR is doing" and that there is no future in it. Who the fuck cares, lad, we are having fun right now, leave us be.

Well they might have shipped 2.5 million, but it's doubtful they actually sold through 500K at this point considering how its sold in previous winters.


VR as a concept is fine. And it isn't doing badly.... for the niche product with limited appeal that it is. But the tech obviously isn't close to having mass appeal. The current products actually aren't revolutionary to gaming. They aren't being bought in higher than niche quantities, and sales haven't picked up dramatically despite the price being cut in half during peak sales periods.

If it hurts your feelings to have people laugh at your deluded optimism about VR, maybe stop giving them a reason to laugh.



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John2290 said:
potato_hamster said:

Well they might have shipped 2.5 million, but it's doubtful they actually sold through 500K at this point considering how its sold in previous winters.


VR as a concept is fine. And it isn't doing badly.... for the niche product with limited appeal that it is. But the tech obviously isn't close to having mass appeal. The current products actually aren't revolutionary to gaming. They aren't being bought in higher than niche quantities, and sales haven't picked up dramatically despite the price being cut in half during peak sales periods.

If it hurts your feelings to have people laugh at your deluded optimism about VR, maybe stop giving them a reason to laugh.

"The virtual reality craze continues to make its way into the mainstream with fans spending more than £100m on headsets for the first time, a 23.5% year-on-year rise. " from UK games sales hit record £5bn thanks to Nintendo Switch and VR | Games | The Guardian

I can't be arsed looking for it but I've also seen news of similar increases in growth in other regions but from the articles that popped up for me while trying to find them the analysts are still predicting great things across all VR. 

Also, I have no deluded optimism. How the fuck is having fun with a technology that is in my hands right now deluded optimism, I couldn't give a fiddlers fuck if it takes off or not, I see two more years of great things and that would be enough, god forbid, to buy my PSVR and ps4 each thrice over if something happened to them. As I've said before, knowing what this technology is now, I'd pay 3 thousand (Future proof PC VR pricing) easy for PSVR on a standard PS4. The only reason I want it to succeed (Not know it will) is because it'll benefit VR as a whole with bigger budget games etc, etc.

You are the deluded one if you think I could be arsed worrying about someones opinion when they proclaim current VR to be the same as 90s VR and doomed to fail.

Ohh I'm sorry, did you think that any comment I made about VR or VR fans was directed at you or something? When I say "you" in the previous comment, I'm obviously referring to VR hardcores, not you specifically. You know, people like the person I replied to initially in this thread which lead to your personal attack.

Please go ahead and point out where I proclaimed that current VR was the same as 90's VR? Ohh right. it didn't happen. What I did say was that there were hardcore VR fans of the 90's that were saying the same ridiculous phrases like "it's revolutionary!" or "it's a gamechanger" or "anyone who really tries it won't be able to go back to playing non-VR games" or any of the other totally nonsensical phrases you've heard ad-nauseum from the VR hardcores. But hey, why actually read the comments of naysayers when you can just make shit up?

And for someone "who couldn't be arsed about someones's opinion" you spend an awful lot of time asking me to stop sharing it.



its 2018 and PSVR is still good.

o/



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potato_hamster said:
KBG29 said:

 

You all can have as much fun with that as you want, but it is a fact. PSVR is bigger than PS4. Sony has already said they will be allowing PSVR on non PlayStation platforms in the future. VR is an indursty that is going to be moving 500M devices a year in the next 5 years, and Sony wants to be a large chunck of those sales.

Two million down... 73 million and counting to go.

PSVR should be bigger than PS4... ohh wait, yep! I know this! Never.

Off to a slow start, good thing I gave myself a 5 year window. We'll see how things are looking by 2022. 

Now that I have spent a year and a half with VR, I am even more convienced in the technology. The Social aspects are beyond anything I had imagined. Multiplayer in VR is like being right their with your friends. It is the greatest digital communication medium I have ever used. 

Once people get more time with VR, and we start getting the AAA games in VR, they will not be able to keep up with demend. This form of interactive entertainment is going to be much bigger than video games ever were.



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KLAMarine said:
KLXVER said:

I heard it has done really well. Already in the hundreds of thousands.

How many hundreds of thousands? Also, hundreds of thousands is dwarved by the tens of millions of non-VR options AAA efforts would probably prefer to focus on.

http://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2017/171207.html

It passed 2 million sold through in early december, might have sold a couple extra 100k since then. It's a decent start, but nowhere near enough to warrant TLOU2 as a PSVR exclusive.



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That's one of the reasons I'm not planning to get PSVR ... just yet. It's pretty clear at this point that there's a huge potential for it, but it's been released one generation too early IMO. PS4 (even pro) simply isn't powerful enough to sustain the same level of quality in VR as in standard versions and some significant, visual sacrifices must be made. I bet, there are 3rd party devs out there, who'd love to give us full AAA experience in VR, but they're simply limited by the hardware. I'm sure that Sony reached to many of them, putting money on the table, but apart from RE7, we haven't seen much.



John2290 said:
potato_hamster said:

Ohh I'm sorry, did you think that any comment I made about VR or VR fans was directed at you or something? When I say "you" in the previous comment, I'm obviously referring to VR hardcores, not you specifically. You know, people like the person I replied to initially in this thread which lead to your personal attack.

Please go ahead and point out where I proclaimed that current VR was the same as 90's VR? Ohh right. it didn't happen. What I did say was that there were hardcore VR fans of the 90's that were saying the same ridiculous phrases like "it's revolutionary!" or "it's a gamechanger" or "anyone who really tries it won't be able to go back to playing non-VR games" or any of the other totally nonsensical phrases you've heard ad-nauseum from the VR hardcores. But hey, why actually read the comments of naysayers when you can just make shit up?

And for someone "who couldn't be arsed about someones's opinion" you spend an awful lot of time asking me to stop sharing it.

I'm going to close my laptop now put on my PSVR headset, relax back and watch a compilation video of insanely,, sexy lesbians having some unadulterated fun  with each other, as if they were right in front of me. God day sir. 

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Kristof81 said:

That's one of the reasons I'm not planning to get PSVR ... just yet. It's pretty clear at this point that there's a huge potential for it, but it's been released one generation too early IMO. PS4 (even pro) simply isn't powerful enough to sustain the same level of quality in VR as in standard versions and some significant, visual sacrifices must be made. I bet, there are 3rd party devs out there, who'd love to give us full AAA experience in VR, but they're simply limited by the hardware. I'm sure that Sony reached to many of them, putting money on the table, but apart from RE7, we haven't seen much.

Nah, I think Sony managed to release at the perfect point in time - PSVR 1 ofcourse won't be a mass market success, but I think it will provide investors with enough confidence to push/finance development further fast enough so that PSVR 2 has a chance to become a 10m+ market

VR games inherently have higher processing demands than flat games, as you need 2 separate views at atleast 60fps and a large FoV per view. Hopefully eyetracking coupled with foveated rendering (which I expect to be incorporated in PSVR2) can cut down these demands enough so that a regular AAA 60fps game can add a VR mode without much hassle/without essentially recreating the game, as imo this is the short term way for VR to see real success.

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KBG29 said:
potato_hamster said:

Two million down... 73 million and counting to go.

PSVR should be bigger than PS4... ohh wait, yep! I know this! Never.

Off to a slow start, good thing I gave myself a 5 year window. We'll see how things are looking by 2022. 

Now that I have spent a year and a half with VR, I am even more convienced in the technology. The Social aspects are beyond anything I had imagined. Multiplayer in VR is like being right their with your friends. It is the greatest digital communication medium I have ever used. 

Once people get more time with VR, and we start getting the AAA games in VR, they will not be able to keep up with demend. This form of interactive entertainment is going to be much bigger than video games ever were.

500 million isn't going to happen by 2022. However, it will definitely be tens a millions of shipments a year by then. It will take a while for it to grow to that point, but will happen. Remember that even smartphones weren't mainstream until 10 years after their market entrance.



John2290 said:
PwerlvlAmy said:
its 2018 and PSVR is still good.

o/

Indeed, the issue still remains however that rape crisis centers are jam packed with all the wallets out there falling victim to this serial rapist of technologies. Seriously, I've spent more money in the last three months than I did in the twelve before it, almost double in fact. My poor wallet though, the stories it tells me. 

yeah. 2018 gonna be crazier for me than 2017 was from the looks of it



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