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The cool thing is that Nintendo still haven't released its biggest guns (Pokémon, Animal Crossing, 2D Mario which is bigger than 3D Mario, Super Smash Bros., a new and fresh Mario Kart, etc.).

Not to mention new IPs can rise from nowhere, like Splatoon, Arms, etc. Labo was just announced and has a lot of potential already, for example.

It will be a fun ride.



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zorg1000 said:
xMetroid said:
How could it have one of the best launch ever (probably THE best launch year ever) and end up getting almost outsold by the xbox one lol ?

It would need to drop at around 10 millions per year starting FY 2018 to F2021 (dying after 5 years) while it's going to do around 15 millions on launch year with stock issues and none of Nintendo's biggest sellers. (Mario 3D is far from the best system seller.) Again, 50 millions would be a catastrophe. Even the Xbox one will, hopefully, surpass that number.

Yeah 3DS shipped 50 million in under 4 years and Switch shipments will be very similar to 3DS shipments after 13 months (~17 million).

Switch sales would have to take a huge hit not to reach 50 million.

Yes exactly and also considering they want to sell more than 20 million switch during the next FY. They are pretty careful with their predictions with the Switch and I don't think they would say something like this if it wasn't a given. It might be even bigger now with the amazing holiday it had.



newwil7l said:
Alkibiádēs said:

If you ignore all the sales evidence... sure... 

This has got to be one of the craziest things I've ever heard on this forum and that's saying something.

The sales evidence actually proves my point which is why I am not as optimistic about Pokemon as so many others are. 

 

3DS was literally down YOY for both Pokemon releases.

As of the last official update (Sept 2017)

 

3DS software sales-343.07 million

Pokemon X/Y-16.20 million (#1 3DS seller)

Pokemon S/M-15.91 million (#3 3DS seller)

Pokemon OR/AS-13.85 million (#4 3DS seller)

Pokemon total-45.96 million (13.4% of 3DS SW)

 

3 of the top 5 3DS games along with over 1/8 of overall 3DS SW sales belong to Pokemon.

To argue that Pokemon isnt one of the biggest system sellers on 3DS would be naive.

 

I agree with you that many people overestimate it but 3DS would be a good deal lower each year without Pokemon.



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Alkibiádēs said:
newwil7l said:

The sales evidence actually proves my point which is why I am not as optimistic about Pokemon as so many others are. 

 

3DS was literally down YOY for both Pokemon releases.

And it would have been down a lot more if it wasn't for Pokémon... We have weekly data for Japan and monthly data for US, we can tell very easily what effect Pokémon had on sales. 

To suggest it didn't boost sales is ludicrous. 

You are basing this off what? There is no evidence it would have sold much worse.



zorg1000 said:
newwil7l said:

The sales evidence actually proves my point which is why I am not as optimistic about Pokemon as so many others are. 

 

3DS was literally down YOY for both Pokemon releases.

As of the last official update (Sept 2017)

 

3DS software sales-343.07 million

Pokemon X/Y-16.20 million (#1 3DS seller)

Pokemon S/M-15.91 million (#3 3DS seller)

Pokemon OR/AS-13.85 million (#4 3DS seller)

Pokemon total-45.96 million (13.4% of 3DS SW)

 

3 of the top 5 3DS games along with over 1/8 of overall 3DS SW sales belong to Pokemon.

To argue that Pokemon isnt one of the biggest system sellers on 3DS would be naive.

 

I agree with you that many people overestimate it but 3DS would be a good deal lower each year without Pokemon.

Obviously it sells boat loads of software. I am bot denying Pokemon's popularity. Just its system selling power.



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RolStoppable said:
nemo37 said:
I think it was way too early to make that prediction when the OP made this thread and it is still too early to predict now. There are far too many uncertainties to make such bold predictions at this point. I want to see how quickly it can catch up to the GameCube and original Xbox's LTD and then the next milestone would be reaching 30 million (at which point I would say the system has a base that is starting to become viable). The next point beyond that would be 50 million (at which point I would say the installbase is fully viable). The bold predictions like reaching 100 million units can be made depending on if and how quickly the Switch reaches those milestones. Based on the first year alone it is difficult to make such a prediction. After all the 3DS (after price cut) and GBA also had very strong launches but neither went onto sell 100 million, and the DS's launch year was not particularly strong yet it is the second best console with regards to units sold. The key will be for Nintendo to maintain momentum and it remains to be seen whether or not they can do it in 2018.

You are way too pessimistic on a regular basis. I remember your thread about Nintendo's fiscal year target of 10m and you thought what Nintendo had shown at that point would make it hard for them to do more than 5.5m.

Switch's installed base is already past the point where it's viable.

LOL...you pretty much described my outlook on most things in life. I think it is always best to see and plan for the worst case. I just remember the threads on this site back in the Wii U's pre-launch and launch where a good number of people were saying it would at minimum sell around 40-50 million units minimum lifetime (many of course agreed that Wii like sales would not be achievable because of the central concept being weaker, but it seemed like it would still do moderately well), the end result of that was a system that sold far less and flopped. The Wii U burn has made me more pessimistic than usual when it comes to consoles in general but especially Nintendo.



newwil7l said:
zorg1000 said:

As of the last official update (Sept 2017)

 

3DS software sales-343.07 million

Pokemon X/Y-16.20 million (#1 3DS seller)

Pokemon S/M-15.91 million (#3 3DS seller)

Pokemon OR/AS-13.85 million (#4 3DS seller)

Pokemon total-45.96 million (13.4% of 3DS SW)

 

3 of the top 5 3DS games along with over 1/8 of overall 3DS SW sales belong to Pokemon.

To argue that Pokemon isnt one of the biggest system sellers on 3DS would be naive.

 

I agree with you that many people overestimate it but 3DS would be a good deal lower each year without Pokemon.

Obviously it sells boat loads of software. I am bot denying Pokemon's popularity. Just its system selling power.

Its a pretty safe assumption to make that the best selling titles on a platform are typically the biggest system sellers for said platform.

Millions of people bought a 3DS to play Pokemon.



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Looking at things now 100m certainly does look like a good possibility with them shipping 14m already that kind of momentum can lead to them hitting that target, 3DS after has passed 70m and will finish up its life at around 75-80m and that's with the troubles from the first year which Switch has not had.

I originally predicted 80m for Switch but with current momentum that has turned out to be quite conservative.



LipeJJ said:
The cool thing is that Nintendo still haven't released its biggest guns (Pokémon, Animal Crossing, 2D Mario which is bigger than 3D Mario, Super Smash Bros., a new and fresh Mario Kart, etc.).

Not to mention new IPs can rise from nowhere, like Splatoon, Arms, etc. Labo was just announced and has a lot of potential already, for example.

It will be a fun ride.

Almost exactly my sentiments although i will expand slightly on that. I believe Nintendo will find some way to prolong/rehash the "Wii" series and whilst not reaching Wii levels of success, i believe it will be very successful and like LABO, bring a new and diverse demographic to the system and help sales potential even further.



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peachbuggy said:
LipeJJ said:
The cool thing is that Nintendo still haven't released its biggest guns (Pokémon, Animal Crossing, 2D Mario which is bigger than 3D Mario, Super Smash Bros., a new and fresh Mario Kart, etc.).

Not to mention new IPs can rise from nowhere, like Splatoon, Arms, etc. Labo was just announced and has a lot of potential already, for example.

It will be a fun ride.

Almost exactly my sentiments although i will expand slightly on that. I believe Nintendo will find some way to prolong/rehash the "Wii" series and whilst not reaching Wii levels of success, i believe it will be very successful and like LABO, bring a new and diverse demographic to the system and help sales potential even further.

I thought about that too. They could bring stuff like a new and compelling Wii Fit-like game, for example.

I think they want to turn Switch into an experience. Like, you can play traditional games, you can play casual games, you can play creative stuff (like Labo), and so on...



Bet with Teeqoz for 2 weeks of avatar and sig control that Super Mario Odyssey would ship more than 7m on its first 2 months. The game shipped 9.07m, so I won