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Puppyroach on 21 October 2016

Handhelds ARE consoles, so this is both a portable and a home console.



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Hedra42 on 21 October 2016
oniyide said:
They are moonwalking out of dedicated console business. I think its good IMHO. Their portables have always been more consistent than the home consoles.

The dock isnt gonna to add any significant power if any at all, people need to come to reality. That is good as it will make the system cheaper. Its very odd that some people are still holding on to the hope that Ninty will make a console that will rival the competition, not after the success of Wii.

What i find interesting is that we havent seen or have confirmation that it will have local multiplayer. You'd think they show than instead of showing four people play seperate tablets....interesting and yes it SHOULD be obvious they would have it, but it wasnt that long ago where it was obvious that Wii U would support multiple gamepads...

From the trailer I'd say it does have local multiplayer. It shows 2-player MarioKart playing on the go, on one screen (3:32). I wouldn't expect it to lose that function when docked into the TV. 



Soundwave on 21 October 2016

It's kinda like when a porn producer puts a lot of actual effort into a story/set/props etc. and says they're making a "film" and not a porno. I mean yeah ok, it's a "movie", but when you got someone getingt railed every 15 minutes in between the story, people are going to walk out of it still thinking it's a porno, lol.

Switch is a portable form factor device. It's portable with its own battery. It has a mobile processor, not a home processor. It has an LCD touchscreen on it. 70% of Nintendo's own presentation showed it being used outside of the home. It has a kickstand built-in when it's used portable. The whole "gimmick" is it's meant to be used away from the home, it even has two break apart controllers so you always have an extra controller when you're away from home that can be used in a pinch. 

Most of the audience for this thing is going to be existing 3DS owners. It's not going to draw any significant user base from the current console ecosystem.



oniyide on 21 October 2016
Hedra42 said:
oniyide said:
They are moonwalking out of dedicated console business. I think its good IMHO. Their portables have always been more consistent than the home consoles.

The dock isnt gonna to add any significant power if any at all, people need to come to reality. That is good as it will make the system cheaper. Its very odd that some people are still holding on to the hope that Ninty will make a console that will rival the competition, not after the success of Wii.

What i find interesting is that we havent seen or have confirmation that it will have local multiplayer. You'd think they show than instead of showing four people play seperate tablets....interesting and yes it SHOULD be obvious they would have it, but it wasnt that long ago where it was obvious that Wii U would support multiple gamepads...

From the trailer I'd say it does have local multiplayer. It shows 2-player MarioKart playing on the go, on one screen (3:32). I wouldn't expect it to lose that function when docked into the TV. 

yeah you're probably right, but with this company I really wouldnt be surprised if it didnt



oniyide on 21 October 2016
Soundwave said:

It's kinda like when a porn producer puts a lot of actual effort into a story/set/props etc. and says they're making a "film" and not a porno. I mean yeah ok, it's a "movie", but when you got someone getingt railed every 15 minutes in between the story, people are going to walk out of it still thinking it's a porno, lol.

Switch is a portable form factor device. It's portable with its own battery. It has a mobile processor, not a home processor. It has an LCD touchscreen on it. 70% of Nintendo's own presentation showed it being used outside of the home. It has a kickstand built-in when it's used portable. The whole "gimmick" is it's meant to be used away from the home, it even has two break apart controllers so you always have an extra controller when you're away from home that can be used in a pinch. 

Most of the audience for this thing is going to be existing 3DS owners. It's not going to draw any significant user base from the current console ecosystem.

I dont think it needs to



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0D0 on 21 October 2016
Game_God said:

It's built like a handheld with battery, screen, cartidges, mobile components & handheld ergonomy, it is not the TV output that will make it a home console... that is just plain fallacy & that is what's annoying me the most, Nintendo must think I'm stupid for not recognizing a handheld I see one, I started playing Nintendo on a GameBoy FGS!!! It's just a tv output, PSP did it & wasn't a home console...

I couldn't agree more. That's exactly what Switch is.



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Soundwave on 21 October 2016
oniyide said:
Soundwave said:

It's kinda like when a porn producer puts a lot of actual effort into a story/set/props etc. and says they're making a "film" and not a porno. I mean yeah ok, it's a "movie", but when you got someone getingt railed every 15 minutes in between the story, people are going to walk out of it still thinking it's a porno, lol.

Switch is a portable form factor device. It's portable with its own battery. It has a mobile processor, not a home processor. It has an LCD touchscreen on it. 70% of Nintendo's own presentation showed it being used outside of the home. It has a kickstand built-in when it's used portable. The whole "gimmick" is it's meant to be used away from the home, it even has two break apart controllers so you always have an extra controller when you're away from home that can be used in a pinch. 

Most of the audience for this thing is going to be existing 3DS owners. It's not going to draw any significant user base from the current console ecosystem.

I dont think it needs to

It doesn't need to because it's a portable and as such will draw audience from the 3DS and whatever is left of the Vita base (which at least in Japan is still somewhat notable). 

And this isn't just a Nintendo specific thing, if Sony had opted to make "Sony Switch" with no Playstation 4 or MS did the same thing with a "Microsoft Switch" and no XBox One/Scorpio, I would say the same thing. They're getting out of the traditional console market. 

To be honest I think Nintendo is also happier this way, it just seems to me like they've not been comfortable or happy with consoles for like 15+ years now. Consoles are too big, too loud, can't be moved around easily enough ... well I mean this is like someone saying football doesn't have short bursts like tennis, it doesn't have 1-on-1 competetion like tennis, they prefer the feel of tennis ... well I mean have you ever considered maybe just playing tennis? lol. Why are you playing a sport when you don't really even seem to like it. You're not even good at football (consoles) really, you're much better at tennis (portables). 

I think that's kinda what's happened. Nintendo doesn't like online/hardware power/big TV graphics/power consumption of modern chips, or supporting modern TV resolutions, NS doesn't even have a new fangled controller even really ... I mean that is what console gaming is basically about, lol, everything they seem to like is centered in the portable market. 



arcaneguyver on 21 October 2016

Agree with OP, and it's a good thing. Gotta stick with what you are good at; Sony ducked out of the handheld market, Nintendo is now ducking out of the home console market.

As far as that reveal went - well, a) it doesn't look particularly comfortable to play without the pro controller, b) I guess I'm more interested in seeing what new games will be out for it, and c) that 2 player half controller business is absolutely ridiculous and will rarely happen IRL. Otherwise it looks exactly as Digital Foundry said it would. I need to see new games to make judgement on it.



Pyro as Bill on 21 October 2016

Nintendo have changed the definition of home console to simultaneous local multiplayer instead of
1. No battery
2. External screen
3. Large form factor

With the exception of football and CoD, Sony and Microsoft's 'home consoles' are actually high powered, immobile portables.
- Heavy focus on single player
- Heavy focus on multi-system multiplayer
- No local (single system) multiplayer. Treated as a hangover from past gens on PS4/XBO.

Nintendo's new definition holds up just fine when looking at successful consoles of the past.



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Mystro-Sama on 21 October 2016
Captain_Yuri said:
Mystro-Sama said:

Its heavily implied that it doesn't. No one in the trailer touched the screen and Nintendo refuses to confirm or deny it so it most likely doesn't.

Well I hope it does cause I have no idea what Nintendo was thinking if it doesn't. Tablet without a touchscreen in 2016 is essentially unheard of; specially in 2017. If they are going after the tablet market and doesn't have basics like this, they goofed.

Hey, I want it too. It would totally stupid if it didn't. It would make it so easier to play Wii U games on the virtual console too.