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Nintendo Switch?

Amazing! 96 33.57%
 
Very good! 51 17.83%
 
Nice. 60 20.98%
 
Terrible. 29 10.14%
 
It will flop. It sucks. 50 17.48%
 
Total:286
deskpro2k3 said:

I think what we see is what we get. It's too big to be a good handheld, and not powerful enough to please the console crowd. It's a tablet running on a mobile processor, that plugs into a dock, and that sends the signal into the TV.

My concern is, what third party is going to support the hardware with their mega hit games? They gonna have to pair it down, and specially fine tune games for it. That spells danger to me, because I think we're looking at another WiiU here, and Nintendo is going to have to rely on first party to be competitive, or they can go the safe route and play it like a Nintendo DS successor.

This is classic Nintendo again folks. They have a track record of building their hardware with their franchise in mind only.

Well, Japanese 3rd party will likely be there in force. They wanted a console like this for the Japanese market for a long time, i think.



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Stefan.De.Machtige said:
deskpro2k3 said:

I think what we see is what we get. It's too big to be a good handheld, and not powerful enough to please the console crowd. It's a tablet running on a mobile processor, that plugs into a dock, and that sends the signal into the TV.

My concern is, what third party is going to support the hardware with their mega hit games? They gonna have to pair it down, and specially fine tune games for it. That spells danger to me, because I think we're looking at another WiiU here, and Nintendo is going to have to rely on first party to be competitive, or they can go the safe route and play it like a Nintendo DS successor.

This is classic Nintendo again folks. They have a track record of building their hardware with their franchise in mind only.

Well, Japanese 3rd party will likely be there in force. They wanted a console like this for the Japanese market for a long time, i think.

Is it what they wanted?



Stefan.De.Machtige said:
deskpro2k3 said:

I think what we see is what we get. It's too big to be a good handheld, and not powerful enough to please the console crowd. It's a tablet running on a mobile processor, that plugs into a dock, and that sends the signal into the TV.

My concern is, what third party is going to support the hardware with their mega hit games? They gonna have to pair it down, and specially fine tune games for it. That spells danger to me, because I think we're looking at another WiiU here, and Nintendo is going to have to rely on first party to be competitive, or they can go the safe route and play it like a Nintendo DS successor.

This is classic Nintendo again folks. They have a track record of building their hardware with their franchise in mind only.

Well, Japanese 3rd party will likely be there in force. They wanted a console like this for the Japanese market for a long time, i think.

 

I know Japan like their handhelds, that's true. I have a question though, does it have touchscreen capability?



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deskpro2k3 said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:

Well, Japanese 3rd party will likely be there in force. They wanted a console like this for the Japanese market for a long time, i think.

 

I know Japan like their handhelds, that's true. I have a question though, does it have touchscreen capability?

Maybe not, not one touch in that trailer as far as i saw. Which is strange. Maybe it doesn't double as a tablet afterall.



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bunchanumbers said:
zorg1000 said:

this is such an over simplification of what this device is and what it aims to do.

Consumers look at things in the simplest of terms. Why buy this when a ipad does more, and gives access to ios? Why pay for this when it has a blurry 720p screen? Why pay for this when there are far more many tablets that offer more?

By chasing the blue ocean, they jumped into the reddest ocean on the planet. And I think they messed up bad. Instead of only facing Sony and MS, they are facing apple, samsung, lg, Sony, and every other mobile device on the planet.

They arent positioning themselves as a tablet though. They are positioning themselves as a gaming device first and fremost, wich is the smartest thing they could have done in this situation. There was not a single social media app/non gaming application shown in this teaser, not even mobile games.

They are firmly placing this in a space that is NOT in competition with Apple, Samsung and al of the other big fish and their marketing was clear and concise for once. That is my big takeaway from this reveal, personally their marketing was on point and that is going to go a long way of deciding if this thing becomes a success or not.



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deskpro2k3 said:

I think what we see is what we get. It's too big to be a good handheld, and not powerful enough to please the console crowd. It's a tablet running on a mobile processor, that plugs into a dock, and that sends the signal into the TV.

My concern is, what third party is going to support the hardware with their mega hit games? They gonna have to pair it down, and specially fine tune games for it. That spells danger to me, because I think we're looking at another WiiU here, and Nintendo is going to have to rely on first party to be competitive, or they can go the safe route and play it like a Nintendo DS successor.

This is classic Nintendo again folks. They have a track record of building their hardware with their franchise in mind only.

It is more powerful than the WiiU, how much more we can´t say, Nvidia was very vague. It can be enough to run most modern games.

It is easier to deal with because you do not have to take the gamepad second screen in consideration

Nintendo will do things in a way the old mistakes do not happen again.

Overall, at least it will get double the support. If it starts to sell well, it will snowball into a success.

We will see. But I loved.



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People already claiming the new Nintendo console is the next Wii, some third parties claiming interest in the platform, no clear info about specs, no idea about price, a lot of wishful thinking regarding upcoming high profile games, its like a déjà vu from 2012.

Very hard to tell how successful this thing will be. I like the concept so far but there are too many unknown factors for now.



I can see my self traveling, setting up the switch on the table in front of me, holding the controller in my hand and playing in a relaxed way while traveling. I hope, HOPE, the price this thing at $249, then it might just fly of shelves.



I think people just need to accept the Wii is not happening again.

That's one of those types of ideas that it lightning in a bottle and happens maybe once every 20-30 years in this business.

That was something you could play for 10 seconds and immediately understand was completely different from existing video game systems and also it was making games for audiences that had no games being made for at all (today that is certainly not the case as Nintendo themselves is running to Apple/Google to access that audience).

Nintendo Switch is basically a much more elegant, functional version of the Wii U concept. No one is going to play that and go "OMFG, this is unlike anything I've ever played in my life ever!!!". There's nothing really that mind blowingly new here, even the form factor by regular people is going to be seen as just "oh ... it's another tablet".

That doesn't mean it can't be a good system, I wouldn't be surprised if the Switch library ends up being better than Wii or Wii U, partly because all of Nintendo's development resources will now be on one system rather than divided into two. It should have no less than two Marios, two Zeldas, a Metroid, Animal Crossing, maybe even two Mario Karts during its life cycle along with more new IP because there's less software redundancy now. 



Unless this thing pulls an absolutely unthinkable miracle, it will be FAR too weak to successfully port major multiplats in a way that will be worthwhile to owners of even base PS4/X1. All the deck will be stacked against it in that area : install base for online MP, different architecture, low performance GPU, and seemingly an ARM design.

It will probably play 1st party Nintendo IPs wonderfully however. The problem with that is that the WiiU already does that in spades. Zelda BOTW is already promised for WiiU, so a major selling title is either not a NS exclusive, hence less reason for Nintendo fans to dump their WiiUs to get an NS to play BOTW, or they cancel the WiiU version to try to get people to get on board, and burn those fans after promising it years ago (release was supposed to happen in 2015).

Unless this is $199 with an amazing launch library, this looks like an absolute disaster. NES mini however should be a massive seller this holiday at least. $249 will be risky unless bundled with a Mario 64 class of game, and $299 is absolute suicide.

This looks like the end of the road to me.