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Soundwave on 21 October 2016

I actually wouldn't mind a *bigger* version of the Switch.

I don't think a 6.2 inch screen is big enough for the types of "set it down on a table and play together!" type gaming they kept showing in the trailer, I've tried it with the Wii U (same size) pad and it's kinda tough, you want to hold it more like a traditional handheld when the screen is that small. You need to get it up to like 8-inches for it to be comfortable to view on a table further away from your eyes.



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teigaga on 21 October 2016
Soundwave said:

I actually wouldn't mind a *bigger* version of the Switch.

I don't think a 6.2 inch screen is big enough for the types of "set it down on a table and play together!" type gaming they kept showing in the trailer, I've tried it with the Wii U (same size) pad and it's kinda tough, you want to hold it more like a traditional handheld when the screen is that small. You need to get it up to like 8-inches for it to be comfortable to view on a table further away from your eyes.

Has the size been confirmed?



Barkley on 21 October 2016
fleischr said:
I'm betting big on this one:

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chakkra said:
Barkley said:
A charging cradle with hdmi output, potentially an upscaler, that's it.

Well, the NS is basically a Tablet and so far tablets have never needed a docking station for charging nor doing TV output.  

So yes, I do believe there is some extra power in that piece.

 

Miyamotoo said:
It big, its bigger than handheld unit, so most likely games some extra processor power. I guess that games on handheld runs at 720p and on TV at 1080p.

 

Mar1217 said:
Gameplay footage showed us than the dock version of Zelda BOTW runs better and looks better than the portable device alone.

So yeah, it probably boost the performance when it's docked

 

Teriol said:
chakkra said:

Well, the NS is basically a Tablet and so far tablets have never needed a docking station for charging nor doing TV output.  

So yes, I do believe there is some extra power in that piece.

this. it is to bulky to be just a HDMI port, nintendo has a patent for a device like a suplementary procesing power to boost another one, so this has to be it.

 

torok said:

No extra GPU. Dual GPU, specially assymetric, is hard to develop for. I would guess that the dock has a power source and fans for active cooling. When detached, NX probably uses 15 to 20 W tops (thermal and battery limits). When docked, it gets extra cooling and infinite battery, so it probably increases its footprint. X1S uses 70 W, but it has an HDD, so I guess NX can try to get a bit closer to it.

NX is said to use Pascal, so it is a Tegra X2 (Parker) device. Tegra X1 reachs 750 Gflops using 20 W. I could suppose that it could ramp up to at least 1 Tflop, putting it close to X1.

Obs.: I hate to use flops to compare GPUs. It's like saying that a car with a 3000 cc engine is faster than one with a 2500cc one.

Well, RIP...

If only my dock prediction thread had taken off, there'd be crow avatars for you all. T_T



Miyamotoo on 21 October 2016
Barkley said:
fleischr said:
I'm betting big on this one:

Blast processing

 

chakkra said:

Well, the NS is basically a Tablet and so far tablets have never needed a docking station for charging nor doing TV output.  

So yes, I do believe there is some extra power in that piece.

 

Miyamotoo said:
It big, its bigger than handheld unit, so most likely games some extra processor power. I guess that games on handheld runs at 720p and on TV at 1080p.

 

Mar1217 said:
Gameplay footage showed us than the dock version of Zelda BOTW runs better and looks better than the portable device alone.

So yeah, it probably boost the performance when it's docked

 

Teriol said:

this. it is to bulky to be just a HDMI port, nintendo has a patent for a device like a suplementary procesing power to boost another one, so this has to be it.

 

torok said:

No extra GPU. Dual GPU, specially assymetric, is hard to develop for. I would guess that the dock has a power source and fans for active cooling. When detached, NX probably uses 15 to 20 W tops (thermal and battery limits). When docked, it gets extra cooling and infinite battery, so it probably increases its footprint. X1S uses 70 W, but it has an HDD, so I guess NX can try to get a bit closer to it.

NX is said to use Pascal, so it is a Tegra X2 (Parker) device. Tegra X1 reachs 750 Gflops using 20 W. I could suppose that it could ramp up to at least 1 Tflop, putting it close to X1.

Obs.: I hate to use flops to compare GPUs. It's like saying that a car with a 3000 cc engine is faster than one with a 2500cc one.

Well, RIP...

If only my dock prediction thread had taken off, there'd be crow avatars for you all. T_T

Well that can be still true, maybe on dock Switch is working at higher clocks with some unlocked parts of hardware.



Barkley on 21 October 2016
Miyamotoo said:

Well that can be still true, maybe on dock Switch is working at higher clocks with some unlocked parts of hardware.

Your comment "I guess that games on handheld runs at 720p and on TV at 1080p." is almost certainly true, but I don't think due to an increase in power, just simply because the Handheld display is most likely a 720p display.



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Miyamotoo on 21 October 2016
Barkley said:
Miyamotoo said:

Well that can be still true, maybe on dock Switch is working at higher clocks with some unlocked parts of hardware.

Your comment "I guess that games on handheld runs at 720p and on TV at 1080p." is almost certainly true, but I don't think due to an increase in power, just simply because the Handheld display is most likely a 720p display.

You are maybe right, Switch games work on 1080p but they are scaled down to 720p when you playing on go, something similar like Wii U games works on 720p on TV but 480p on gamepad. Basicly, 720p display doesn't mean 720p output.



numberwang on 21 October 2016

Do you think the dock will always be included or is there a basic set with handheld only for 199$.



JRPGfan on 21 October 2016

My guess is Cooling Fan inside.

Its just USB ports, maybe a ethernet port, another Micro SD slot, wires to hook up to tv ect.



DanneSandin on 21 October 2016

I'm hoping it'll provide a boost, but from what we're hearing right now, that's not the case. And that's a bit disappointing!



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Scisca on 21 October 2016
Barkley said:
Miyamotoo said:

Because Nintendo doesn't like internal HDDs.

But it's not internal, it'd be in the dock, it doesn't even have to come with one, just have a slot you can put one in when you need more space!

Makes a lot of sense to me.

HDD in the cradle makes no sense whatsoever! Let's say you're playing a game from the HDD, or with patch files there. Now you disconnect the console and what happens? How's the tablet supposed to work without that data?

When it comes to patches and DLC, I think the solution can be simple - leave free space on the gamekart and store patches there.

And let's keep in mind, there are already 512GB microSD cards. I'd love to have 128GB or 256GB of internal storage, but a solution for storage will come soon enough - unless they follow the Vita way, but that would be suicide.

 

I think that maximum what the cradle can possibly do is give extra juice (electricity) to the console, so the GPU can boost to its full potential and get better performance this way. No extra compute units, just extra Volts. Apart from that maybe some magic upscaling of the visuals. Nothing more.



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