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Diomedes1976 said:
Blu Ray is killing HD-DVD everywhere ,thats pretty clear .Hd-DVD is alreadyu wiped out of Japan and the eastern market where BR has 96% of the market .It is already losing in NA and in Europe .Yes ,the 100K users of HD-DVD are buying movies like fanatics with a lobby-like mentality that is complemented with a hathred towards Sony like true sectarists and arrange in their forums "sales days " to buy movies and equal the balance but ....thats it .They are a very small and niche group that can put up a good fight spending nearly all their money in movies from 4 companies ...that isnt sustainable in the long run and the fact is that BR is winning without too much effort on casual movie sales by PS3 users.Sony is reducing the prices real fast for the blu diodes and I expect BR to fall in price faster than HD-DVD ....its a question of time BR wipes out HDDVD from existence ,theres no denying it .In any case the BR technology is superior (better storage capacity ,better transfer speed,better protection of the disks ,etc ) and for the general public the BR win will be a good thing .The best would be HD-DVD dying quickly ...the most people that buy that format the most people will get screwed .

The European and Japanese markets combined aren't even as big as the US market for the hd format, so it doesn't really mater who is winning in those markets right now there to small. Even the US market is to small right now to say who is going to win. Just answer this in the US if there is roughly 1.5 million people with PS3 or bluray player and only roughly 300k with hddvd player or 360hddvd why does bluray only have around 55% of the US market share. I don't think "sales days" like you say can make that kind of impact on the market share. Also everything you say about bluray being superior than hddvd doesn't mater to the majority of the consumers.

 



         

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Gballzack said:

Unfortunately the numbers don't seem to be on HD-DVD's side, I would like to see HD-DVD prevail but its a hard call with so few supporting it exclusively. If only Blu-Ray supported hybrids and Porn I would take their side.


Finally... eyeopener.

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@ nathantay

How about hybrids? Standard or not? It looks like you are pretty well informed regards HDDVD movies.



kber81 said:
Gballzack said:

Unfortunately the numbers don't seem to be on HD-DVD's side, I would like to see HD-DVD prevail but its a hard call with so few supporting it exclusively. If only Blu-Ray supported hybrids and Porn I would take their side.


 Finally... eyeopener.


Lol, where did you think I stood on the issue? Sure I'm against Blu-Ray but I'm not a tool like your who takes a side out of blind devotion. Unfortunatley its still too early to tell in this race so don't think I've given up hope for HD-DVD. There are more HD-DVD players in the US than Blu-Ray players so depending on the movies and who pushes more the tables can turn very easily.

I still believe HD-DVD is superior in its allowments and advocation of Hybrid but that doesn't mean its garanteed success, I'm not sure where you thought this was going but not everyone is as one sided on an issue as yourself. And success of Blu-Ray still doesn't mean success for Sony's PS3 I'm afraid. Pathetic really, first you fans try and say the PS3 is the best console, when that doesn't work you try comparing it to the PC instead and now you're left to arguing what disc format it supports, lol. What next, are you going to be forced to arguing the PS3's memory storage function is better? lol.

Bottom line is Sony is a terrible company with terrible practices and terrible ethics. If Blu-Ray does succeed I hope its forced to allow porn at the very least and I can at least sleep at night knowing Sony doesn't have direct control over it.



Well even if the japanese/eu market are small now, they wont be forever. And if the marketshares in Japan/EU stay the same as the market grow, it will eventually mean that a 45% NA share will translate into a much smaller global share.

And quite frankly - there isnt much favouring the HD DVD over Bluray on the EU market. Those 200 dollar walmart players wont be on the european market this christmas..

 

 

 

 



@Jourma

Of course not, Europe is Sony's toilet, Europe loves Sony more than their own Nationalities.

But... Has Europe's market, ever mattered in regards to anything?... ever?



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Btw where does this notion that blueray wont have porn come from?

 I'm pretty sure there's going to be just as much porn on bluray as on hddvd.

 

 




 

Gballzack: Trolling, no?

 

edit: i even made the effort to make sure i spelled your nick correctly. Mine should be easier to get right. 



The hybrids are another way for a BR win .First the announced hybrids (LG ) are readers that can only play the HD-DVD format but cant access to the interactive menus .BR they play it perfectly .So buyers of the hybrids are going to buy the fims preferently in BR format . BR allows porn ,anyone saying the contrary dont know what they are speaking about .Thats the problem with MS FUD ,once they spread it the wow factor goes to the fake new and once it is proved fake no one is listening anymore ...that leaves masses of distrubed fanboys as Gballzack here saying nonsenses hour after hour day after day . Br isnt only Sony ,if they could only understand that ..... Its only Sony haters after all .Who cares ?



Diomedes1976 said:
The hybrids are another way for a BR win .First the announced hybrids (LG ) are readers that can only play the HD-DVD format but cant access to the interactive menus .BR they play it perfectly .So buyers of the hybrids are going to buy the fims preferently in BR format . BR allows porn ,anyone saying the contrary dont know what they are speaking about .Thats the problem with MS FUD ,once they spread it the wow factor goes to the fake new and once it is proved fake no one is listening anymore ...that leaves masses of distrubed fanboys as Gballzack here saying nonsenses hour after hour day after day . Br isnt only Sony ,if they could only understand that ..... Its only Sony haters after all .Who cares ?

Sony haters = Anyone not Europian and 85% of the game market lol.

I require a source proving BR will allow porn.

Also, by Hybrids I was refering to Hybrid Discs, not players.

Lol, if Sonytards can't have a good gaming console, they might as convince themselves they have the best disc format, lol.



I wonder how much time do you need to get banned.