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A few thoughts:

  • For Trump, the most important states are Florida and Ohio. Even if Clinton has a critical failure or Trump has a critical success in the next few weeks, Clinton has a larger share of likely electoral votes. Especially since Virginia is increasingly Democratic in presidential elections. Without Florida, Trump only has one of the larger states' allotment of votes (Texas) vs Clinton's existing four (California, Illinois, New York, and Pennsylvania). Ohio is only slightly less important, but Florida is Trump's essential state right now.
  • Clinton's lead over Trump was smaller until the first two debates. If Trump does well with the third debate, that could make a major difference.
  • Clinton seems to be a less active campaigner than Trump, at least in terms of being on the ground and giving speeches to large crowds. That can cause trouble for her.
  • I'm not sure how much any kind of scandal will affect either candidate. Both are fairly good at shrugging those off.


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Not making so many unforced errors, really. Hillary is a beatable candidate, but it obviously doesn't help when Trump frequently punches himself in the face metaphorically. One such example was when he brought up his temperament during the first debate when Hillary didn't bring it up at all. That gave her a big opening and she did not hesitate to exploit that mistake.



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TFW the only way you can pull out a W is by running against 21st Century Hitler.
If you put Clinton against Vincent Adultman from Bojack Horseman she would lose.



So obviously if Trump wanted to win he would need Clinton to be the most disliked candidate in history. I figure all he needs is a Matriarchal society and some old videos to surface. Having the newspapers on his side would help too.
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FiveThirtyEight actually just put up an article about this today.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/if-trump-wins-heres-how-the-map-might-look/

Needless to say, his odds aren't great. He pretty much MUST win Ohio, Arizona, Iowa, Florida, North Carolina, and Nevada.

Mind you, he's currently losing in all of those states.



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Soundwave said:
Faust said:

U lost me there buddy.

They are much, much closer than Trump. There's no two ways around that. 

I didn't know Bernie was in favor of tpp,  fracking,  wall street's deregulations, war,  etc etc etc. 

 

 And Trump doesn't even have a policy btw :)

 

Now,  if you wanna make the lesser of two evils argument, well,  he is the lesser of two evils so you should be grateful for people like me going third party instead of trump



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Faust said:
Soundwave said:

They are much, much closer than Trump. There's no two ways around that. 

I didn't know Bernie was in favor of tpp,  fracking,  wall street's deregulations, war,  etc etc etc. 

 

 And Trump doesn't even have a policy btw :)

 

Now,  if you wanna make the lesser of two evils argument, well,  she is the lesser of two evils so you should be grateful for people like me going third party instead of trump

 

This - went third party for the presidential race last election and will have to do it again because the lesser of two evils still leaves you with evil and both of these candidates suck evil evil donky dong.



Maybe if people took seriously the threats from Russian Officials that if American's vote for Hillary "It's war".

Not to mention all the drills they've been running (one involving 40 million citizens) to get people into nuclear bunkers. Authorisation of food rations should war break out and Putin ordering all overseas officials back to the motherland immediately.

None of this is reported in the mainstream media because Trump stating the obvious truth that power gets you pussy and Kim Kardashian getting robbed are more important that WWIII.

It's usually posturing with countries led by men like Putin, but I'm not sure it is this time and Trump has shown no interest in an aggressive foreign policy, whereas Clinton has. If I was American I would honestly rather give Trump access to the codes over Hillary. He's pretty inconsistent, but she's a consistently antagonistic warmonger.



palou said:
Baryonyx said:
It's rigged, Hillary will take the Seat or else Obama will stay in Office as he have threatened to do.

How to figure out who's in charge, find out who you can't criticize and based on Mainstream corporate-media that is definetly Hillary..

People think they have a idea on how the world works and they only believe that everyone except themselves and their own belief isn't brainwash.. We are all brainwashed and we have been for over 120 years now.. Nothing ever changes and nothing now will change either.

I agree that we are misinformed (I would not use the term «brainwashed». Read my other post, above.

To have been misinformed for 120 or so xxx years is considered brainwash because who know how deep the tyranny goes or xxx millions lives lost and who know how wrong our history books are, just look who responsible for our education. politic's have always been a game of corruption and profits and the entire point with brainwashed is the fact that we wouldn't even know about it, so if you have been brainwashed, how do you know your not? I don't know how deeply misinformed i am but at least curiosity is a start.



 

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Baryonyx said:
palou said:

I agree that we are misinformed (I would not use the term «brainwashed». Read my other post, above.

To have been misinformed for 120 or so xxx years is considered brainwash because who know how deep the tyranny goes or xxx millions lives lost and who know how wrong our history books are, just look who responsible for our education. politic's have always been a game of corruption and profits and the entire point with brainwashed is the fact that we wouldn't even know about it, so if you have been brainwashed, how do you know your not? I don't know how deeply misinformed i am but at least curiosity is a start.

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