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MonkeyDLuffy said:

Heh no, nothing like that. 

 

So an example of progressivism in politics would be enacting a law restricting the private ownership of a certain type of rifle, arguing that we don't need those things and they're more used for killings. Then once that type of gun is outlawed, they start saying well it didn't go far enough, we need to restrict these ones as well. Eventually resulting in the outlawing of all guns. 

 

It's a policy that could never pass immediately, just banning guns, but by progressively taking away the pieces bit by bit, they can succeed. 

 

Another example from right now is how they're trying to remove gender altogether by confusing our children and telling them there are 50, 60 different genders they might be. Ultimately with progressivism we'll get to the point where there are no male and female bathrooms and eventually the concept of a man and a woman will be completely foreign. 

 

Hopefully you see my point. It has very little to do with any measurable progress and instead focuses on tricking the populace. 

I think there should be assault rifle bans but the guns are pretty much everywhere now in USA.  I only believe civilians should be allowed to have a hunting rifle, shotgun or handgun.  Basically, we screwed ourselves because we have become saturated with assualt rifles.  We should have never allowed civilian use in first place but now that we have where do we go from here? 

Bathroom thing doesn't bother me that much because the female restrooms are stalls only.  I think a transgender would be safer in a woman's stall than possibly being assaulted in a males restroom.  I'm not sure though what do you think?



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Locknuts said:

Maybe if people took seriously the threats from Russian Officials that if American's vote for Hillary "It's war".

Not to mention all the drills they've been running (one involving 40 million citizens) to get people into nuclear bunkers. Authorisation of food rations should war break out and Putin ordering all overseas officials back to the motherland immediately.

None of this is reported in the mainstream media because Trump stating the obvious truth that power gets you pussy and Kim Kardashian getting robbed are more important that WWIII.

It's usually posturing with countries led by men like Putin, but I'm not sure it is this time and Trump has shown no interest in an aggressive foreign policy, whereas Clinton has. If I was American I would honestly rather give Trump access to the codes over Hillary. He's pretty inconsistent, but she's a consistently antagonistic warmonger.

Drills: http://www.snopes.com/russians-drill-nuclear-strike/

"This year’s exercise is not exceptional in terms of scale. For example, the drill of 2013 involved over 60 million people."

http://www.snopes.com/2016/10/12/putin-urging-russian-officials-to-return/

Sure, tensions are higher than they've been in a while.  They aren't as bad as they were during the cold war.  All these "news stories" seem to be from weird questionable sites.  

I haven't seen Hillary as the warmonger, and Trump being the one with a passive foreign policy....

These drills only started in 2012, half way through the Obama administration. Putin and Obama don't get along, but should Hillary be elected, tensions could easily rise to the levels seen during the cold war.

Just googling 'Russian bunker drills' shows heaps of different news sites reporting on it. The mainstream media largely ignore these stories. I don't know why they ignore them, but I certainly have my suspicions. 



sethnintendo said:
I think now would be a perfect time to start a bunker business. Seems like some people are scared shitless. Time to start buying more guns and ammo! Watch out they are coming for you!

Guns, ammo n' souvenirs... Get them while they're in stock! 

Seriously, it's either potential civil war, Russia nuking the US or the US inciting everyone to nuke each other... 

 

At least we can say we'll finally get rid of the internet if either of those three happens... 



SpokenTruth said:
contestgamer said:

Fixing the economy lol Yeah Obama "fixed it"

Do you have data or just a Fox News sound bite?

 

You made the assertion. First of all Presidents dont "fix" economies. Theyre not omnipotent. It's a joke if you think a President can unilaterally fix an economy.



Does anyone here still think it possible Trump wins it?



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JRPGfan said:
Does anyone here still think it possible Trump wins it?

He might, but odds are against him. He still has a chance because it seems he simply doesn't fall below 43 percent... 



palou said:
Baryonyx said:

To have been misinformed for 120 or so xxx years is considered brainwash because who know how deep the tyranny goes or xxx millions lives lost and who know how wrong our history books are, just look who responsible for our education. politic's have always been a game of corruption and profits and the entire point with brainwashed is the fact that we wouldn't even know about it, so if you have been brainwashed, how do you know your not? I don't know how deeply misinformed i am but at least curiosity is a start.

Long live cartesian logic!

The most important thing to do is to accept that many things you cannot know; start with what you can say with certitude, and try to never let yourself get convinced by any knowledge that is beyond what you can retrace with logic. Much of the misinformation that we receive and accept ony circulates because people have the need to possess a clear position on everything, even if it is beyond what they are able to deduce.

What?

There is plenty of evidence behind what i said, i wouldn't have come out of my shell and actually bother to type anything at all at VGchartz.
I do have some dignity, it's not like i pulled some ignorance out of my back-pocket.... Despite what you decided to believe, you have no proof or idea of what i know and i can't do the same, unless i have evidence for it.

The victor always writes the story.
All wars are based on deception.

The fact that people don't fact-check everything they learn in school is due for the expectations that what we learn is right which is a based on blind-trust.
We always learn what we need to know or what ''The government'' want us to know.
So basically the only true legitimate knowledge we learn in schools are: Language, Math and a few other things which are 100% Job related.

You can forget about History to be correct, even History channel or National geographic can't even separate the difference between a Dinosaur and a reptile.
Basically, we still believe that Dinosaurs was two-legged birds with no feathers.
A taught History is always biased, will always be bias and no matter what? It will still be biased.
Are you familiar with the cold war propaganda? Do you honestly believe that Russia was the only one brainwashing their own people into blindly trust the government?
Trust me, a lot of that US propaganda made their ways into the history books like all wars sooner or later does if it had a big enough impact on the world, the victors will always write the history in their own honor.
My country is brainwashed, My neighbour country is brainwashed and USA is DEFINETLY brainwashed.. I don't even need evidence for that..

Why should i even listen to you? Your College education is weak as fuck..... People kept failing at passing the SAT so your government basically lowered the scores! Based on what a few certain friends of mine is sharing with me about their classes, it's weak.

Basically: There are over 12.000 leaked Emails from Hillary, most of them sharing shocking news about big-time corruption and there is not one democrat who demands to switch Hillary out for Bernie Sanders... That is what i call: In denial of the truth.

I don't know what exeggerations that you get in your mind when you think brainwash, it's not that complicated to brainwash people and it doesn't really require that much either. Our current living brainwash have been slowly integrated into our schools and general system since the 60s, at least in my country when the Socialist's took over, they basically changed our history-books and it's quite interesting to read the old ones which actually made a lot more sense in a logical way according to history but now? We read books with ''Physically altered photos'' that is easily exposed by finding the original photo and actually see the difference.

The fact that you are sitting here and saying what you are saying, denying the very possibility of a global alteration of history to fit a certain political agenda and direct us like the sheeps that we are to function a certain way they want us to behave kinda, not completey does prove that you are definetly brainwashed and the fact that you can't comprehend that thought only means that your so deep in it that ''The truth'' needs to beat your ass in for you to realize that the brainwash is there in your head.

You don't know if you are brainwashed or not, you will never know but since you can't even acknowledge the possibilities is very Anti-progressive on your own part.

Let us set up an example: A Cremation of a body takes about 1 hour, you can only have one body at the time, Why? Because of the water-percentage in our body and more then one body would end up in horrible and anti-productive result's. auschwitz had only 15 crematorium ovens which in reality and math could only hold one body at the time each chamber. The gas-chambers usually gassed 2000 people each use so basically they had to burn 2000 people in a day. How did they do it? 2000 bodies, 1 hour each cremation and there was 15 furnices with a lower quality then those we have today.. C.mon use Logic, i know the topic is highly disturbing but use your logic despite the topic if you have the balls to do it. It doesn't add up but still history claims it legitimacy despite the fact that 4 bodies each chamber is physically impossible, not only because of the water-percentage but the fact that it couldn't room more then 1 and a half body at max based on the size of the chamber.

You can't deny logic and i bet you will avoid that one because you are too scare to have a reasonable conversation about it, because as soon as you start reading it, you get these negative pre-judgement's that clouds you from the real math behind it all.

You can try to burn 4 bodies in under 30 minut's as History claim they did.. Remember only 15 furnices.

Should we talk about the Sovjet union and Poland during 1930-1937? There is plenty of shit there we should have learned in schools but we was not.

History was my favorite lecture at school too and basically had top scores. Ofc now i realize that i only knew about 10% of the entire truth and i am now forced to read ancient newspapers and books to find shit out.



 

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Baryonyx said:




Basically: There are over 12.000 leaked Emails from Hillary, most of them sharing shocking news about big-time corruption and there is not one democrat who demands to switch Hillary out for Bernie Sanders... That is what i call: In denial of the truth.



Let us set up an example: A Cremation of a body takes about 1 hour, you can only have one body at the time, Why? Because of the water-percentage in our body and more then one body would end up in horrible and anti-productive result's. auschwitz had only 15 crematorium ovens which in reality and math could only hold one body at the time each chamber. The gas-chambers usually gassed 2000 people each use so basically they had to burn 2000 people in a day. How did they do it? 2000 bodies, 1 hour each cremation and there was 15 furnices with a lower quality then those we have today.. C.mon use Logic, i know the topic is highly disturbing but use your logic despite the topic if you have the balls to do it. It doesn't add up but still history claims it legitimacy despite the fact that 4 bodies each chamber is physically impossible, not only because of the water-percentage but the fact that it couldn't room more then 1 and a half body at max based on the size of the chamber.

You can't deny logic and i bet you will avoid that one because you are too scare to have a reasonable conversation about it, because as soon as you start reading it, you get these negative pre-judgement's that clouds you from the real math behind it all.

You can try to burn 4 bodies in under 30 minut's as History claim they did.. Remember only 15 furnices.

1.  Most people don't give a shit because most of the leaked emails don't really show shit.  If you are so damn concerned about Hillary and her private server then you should be calling for Colin Powell to be jailed too because he did the same thing when he was Secretary of State.  You know what?  Colin Powell is voting for Hillary.

2.  What the fuck are you talking about with the amount of people cremated or time it takes to cremate?  Are you trying to state that less Jews were killed in the Holocaust?  You do know they also had mass graves.  Not even sure why you brought up the Holocaust.  It just makes you look crazy.



Baryonyx said:
palou said:

Long live cartesian logic!

The most important thing to do is to accept that many things you cannot know; start with what you can say with certitude, and try to never let yourself get convinced by any knowledge that is beyond what you can retrace with logic. Much of the misinformation that we receive and accept ony circulates because people have the need to possess a clear position on everything, even if it is beyond what they are able to deduce.

What?

There is plenty of evidence behind what i said, i wouldn't have come out of my shell and actually bother to type anything at all at VGchartz.
I do have some dignity, it's not like i pulled some ignorance out of my back-pocket.... Despite what you decided to believe, you have no proof or idea of what i know and i can't do the same, unless i have evidence for it.

The victor always writes the story.
All wars are based on deception.

The fact that people don't fact-check everything they learn in school is due for the expectations that what we learn is right which is a based on blind-trust.
We always learn what we need to know or what ''The government'' want us to know.
So basically the only true legitimate knowledge we learn in schools are: Language, Math and a few other things which are 100% Job related.

You can forget about History to be correct, even History channel or National geographic can't even separate the difference between a Dinosaur and a reptile.
Basically, we still believe that Dinosaurs was two-legged birds with no feathers.
A taught History is always biased, will always be bias and no matter what? It will still be biased.
Are you familiar with the cold war propaganda? Do you honestly believe that Russia was the only one brainwashing their own people into blindly trust the government?
Trust me, a lot of that US propaganda made their ways into the history books like all wars sooner or later does if it had a big enough impact on the world, the victors will always write the history in their own honor.
My country is brainwashed, My neighbour country is brainwashed and USA is DEFINETLY brainwashed.. I don't even need evidence for that..

Why should i even listen to you? Your College education is weak as fuck..... People kept failing at passing the SAT so your government basically lowered the scores! Based on what a few certain friends of mine is sharing with me about their classes, it's weak.

Basically: There are over 12.000 leaked Emails from Hillary, most of them sharing shocking news about big-time corruption and there is not one democrat who demands to switch Hillary out for Bernie Sanders... That is what i call: In denial of the truth.

I don't know what exeggerations that you get in your mind when you think brainwash, it's not that complicated to brainwash people and it doesn't really require that much either. Our current living brainwash have been slowly integrated into our schools and general system since the 60s, at least in my country when the Socialist's took over, they basically changed our history-books and it's quite interesting to read the old ones which actually made a lot more sense in a logical way according to history but now? We read books with ''Physically altered photos'' that is easily exposed by finding the original photo and actually see the difference.

The fact that you are sitting here and saying what you are saying, denying the very possibility of a global alteration of history to fit a certain political agenda and direct us like the sheeps that we are to function a certain way they want us to behave kinda, not completey does prove that you are definetly brainwashed and the fact that you can't comprehend that thought only means that your so deep in it that ''The truth'' needs to beat your ass in for you to realize that the brainwash is there in your head.

You don't know if you are brainwashed or not, you will never know but since you can't even acknowledge the possibilities is very Anti-progressive on your own part.

Let us set up an example: A Cremation of a body takes about 1 hour, you can only have one body at the time, Why? Because of the water-percentage in our body and more then one body would end up in horrible and anti-productive result's. auschwitz had only 15 crematorium ovens which in reality and math could only hold one body at the time each chamber. The gas-chambers usually gassed 2000 people each use so basically they had to burn 2000 people in a day. How did they do it? 2000 bodies, 1 hour each cremation and there was 15 furnices with a lower quality then those we have today.. C.mon use Logic, i know the topic is highly disturbing but use your logic despite the topic if you have the balls to do it. It doesn't add up but still history claims it legitimacy despite the fact that 4 bodies each chamber is physically impossible, not only because of the water-percentage but the fact that it couldn't room more then 1 and a half body at max based on the size of the chamber.

You can't deny logic and i bet you will avoid that one because you are too scare to have a reasonable conversation about it, because as soon as you start reading it, you get these negative pre-judgement's that clouds you from the real math behind it all.

You can try to burn 4 bodies in under 30 minut's as History claim they did.. Remember only 15 furnices.

Should we talk about the Sovjet union and Poland during 1930-1937? There is plenty of shit there we should have learned in schools but we was not.

History was my favorite lecture at school too and basically had top scores. Ofc now i realize that i only knew about 10% of the entire truth and i am now forced to read ancient newspapers and books to find shit out.

Sorry to have wasted your time for that long block of text, but my comment wasn't actually meant to be critical towards you. It was a proposition to your question of how one can distinguish what is true and what is not.

What concerns the denial of the Holocaust, your argument relies on the fact that there were only 15 crematories (I would like a source for that, by the way) A quick search on google gives you a result that states there to have been a minimum of 5 buildings dedicated to crematories in Auschwitz-Birkenau complex. You can also find an image of the second crematory http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/images/Holocaust/aucrem2.jpg in the image alone, 14 seperate ovens - in a single building. Crematory III was supposed to be of an identical design, I didn't bother checking specificities for the others, because evidently, it appears that you have underestimated the number of ovens, making the argument invalid. Equally, as someone else stated, mass graves could also always be a solution in such a case, or other chemical methods to reduce a body to its components.

I by the way live in Canada, not the US (though I originally come from Germany). 

I have no specific qualification in History or any human sciences, and I don't plan on getting one. I probably plan to get a mathematics or comp science masters/likely PH.D, (both my parents got their degrees in Math, and my brother is also leaning math/comp, so not much of a choice there, lol).

In Québec, we have an obligatory (for everyone) course in Philosophy, that treats about Cartesian logic, and how to properely analyse your beliefs (of course, with an explanation how this analysis is just.) I found this to be an excellent idea, an appropriate addition to building a well-informed citizen. My comment reflected that I would think that it could be a course taught to all.



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Let us set up an example: A Cremation of a body takes about 1 hour, you can only have one body at the time, Why? Because of the water-percentage in our body and more then one body would end up in horrible and anti-productive result's. auschwitz had only 15 crematorium ovens which in reality and math could only hold one body at the time each chamber. The gas-chambers usually gassed 2000 people each use so basically they had to burn 2000 people in a day. How did they do it? 2000 bodies, 1 hour each cremation and there was 15 furnices with a lower quality then those we have today.. C.mon use Logic, i know the topic is highly disturbing but use your logic despite the topic if you have the balls to do it. It doesn't add up but still history claims it legitimacy despite the fact that 4 bodies each chamber is physically impossible, not only because of the water-percentage but the fact that it couldn't room more then 1 and a half body at max based on the size of the chamber.

I would also like to know where exactly you got your information that it would be impossible to cremate more than 1 person at a time. Is it a scholarly source, someone that should know the details of the procedure?



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