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Forums - Website Topics - Religion/Politics Threads: This really needs to stop(plus a poll)

 

What is your opinion on this matter?

I'm fine with these threads. 74 28.68%
 
They seriously need to stop. 115 44.57%
 
Couldn't care less. 69 26.74%
 
Total:258

I have not own a Nintendo console since the 64.I do not post on Nintendo threats because I don't know or care about Nintendo. people complaining about political or religious threads are nothing more than Point farmers.adding nothing to the threads just to get a few points.



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barneystinson69 said:
aLkaLiNE said:
As an agnostic, I agree with this 100%!!! It would be nice to have discussion regarding intelligent design but it's pretty discouraging to touch on the topic when anyone who isn't an atheist is labeled as ignorant or stupid.

Exactly! Now look I have very very liberal in my views on science, but I'm still "Christan". I admit I don't attend church and have barely read anything in the bible, but I still believe in god. Maybe my views fit in more with a different religion, but people who do have religious views shouldn't be treated as "insane people".

I don't get it what is the point of calling yourself a Christian when you are a not a true believer. 



spurgeonryan said:
Jesus Christ people! Stop ruining it for people who enjoy them. Just block political threads from your hot topics feed.

This is like when ocean tried to block NX threads because they annoyed 5 people. It failed! We want to post what we want to post.

Don't go in them!

Listen Spurgeonryan. As I said countless times, I follow that philosophy countless of times. However, it has reached the extent where people are causing countless of flame threads. Look at the 3 links I posted in the OP. All 3 of them are locked. Why is that? It's because the recent threads have shown the consequence of abusing freedom of speech. It does nothing but harm this website. It pushes away new users when these type of threads pop up on the hot page. It makes current users want to leave.

VGChartz is already imperfect. we don't need idiots running around to make it worse. 

 

Also, the NX thing was different. There were tons of NX threads to the point where so many of them either repeated a thread literally made within the last week. As of now NX speculation threads actually provide cool rumours worth discussing.

Bandorr said:
The issue with the "just don't click them" is some of the titles offend people. I don't need to click a thread to know that "the holocaust never happened" is wildly offensive.

A religious person doesn't need to click a thread to see "all religious people are naive and clueless" as offensive.

If the title was just "let's discuss god" then the "just don't click it" argument would work. Which leads to two options. Moderate the title, or create a religious/political thread that doesn't show up on the front page. IE just replicate the NSFW forum with a new name.

I think too many people have misunderstood me. Unfortunately people have assumed I want to ban anything non-gaming related, when in reality i just want to see it managed better. If the mods say they can't manage it better, then they should place less attention to it to avoid flame wars that extend into 100+ responses. 

Peh said:
How about more dedicated mods for this kind of topics?

Unfortunately VGChartz is rather stern on who is and who isn't moderator. There are a lot of users who could be moderator, but for some reason they aren't. Ganoncrotch, Spurgeonryan, Zero129, Azuren, etc. 

Keep in mind I posted this under website issues. You can always make a post for website issues and recommend more mods.

AZWification said:
Maybe have one giant thread where people can discuss religion?

Megathreads never turn out well. They turn into a headache and 90% of the time die out.

Soundwave said:
To be honest I wouldn't mind it if religious/political threads just went away.

This is a forum about video game sales, having OT threads about other entertainment issues like movies, music, and sports is alright, but religion/politics seems like a huge ass stretch. Plus it would probably make life a lot easier for mods.

With that logic though, VGChartz would be close to dead. We need non-gaming threads to make people feel like VGChartz is more than just people who are obsessed with technology/games/sales. There are actually very good religious/political threads made. It's just that in the past week the amount of trolling religious threads have exploded. As long as the trolls and flamers aren't lurking around causing issues, I'm fine with it.

Pavolink said:
I normally find those threads boring.

guess it's easier for you to avoid then :P

 

Chris Hu said:
barneystinson69 said:

Exactly! Now look I have very very liberal in my views on science, but I'm still "Christan". I admit I don't attend church and have barely read anything in the bible, but I still believe in god. Maybe my views fit in more with a different religion, but people who do have religious views shouldn't be treated as "insane people".

I don't get it what is the point of calling yourself a Christian when you are a not a true believer. 

Who are you to judge whether he is a true believer or not? Unless I am mistaken, you aren't god, nor will you ever be. It is not up to you to decide who is and who isn't a true christian.

 

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged." Matthew 7:1



 

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StarOcean said:

Political and religious threads are cancer and so are all the users who make them, actually no, they're worse. Any of you users out there who make these shitty threads, go fuck yourselves. Seriously. This is a video game forum, politics and religion have no reason to be here. Getting political or religious advice in these forums is like going to your neighbor's 6yr old daughter to get a liver transplant. Shit ain't ever gonna go well

I never knew that I loved you, but I now have found my one true love. Also, I wish I could post shit like this and not get banned!



I bet the Wii U would sell more than 15M LTD by the end of 2015. He bet it would sell less. I lost.

So, we've had about 180 votes and ~120 responses to the thread. I'd just like to say thank you to everyone for providing insight on the topic. It's nice to see the issue be address. Even if I don't get the solution I wanted, I appreciate the fact that the mods looked into it.



 

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hershel_layton said:
ohmylanta1003 said:

I didn't skip over anything. It's just very, very ironic that of all people, you would be the one calling for a stop. I don't care about what you've apologized for. You are a large part of the reason this site has taken a turn for the worse.

I won't deny that I've done a lot of horrible things. However, since the last time I was banned(which was several months ago) i've been a decent user. Nothing more and nothing less.

 

edit: I find it very funny how you personally insult me instead of discussing the actual topic. 

How am I not discussing the topic and when did I insult you?



I bet the Wii U would sell more than 15M LTD by the end of 2015. He bet it would sell less. I lost.

ohmylanta1003 said:
hershel_layton said:

I won't deny that I've done a lot of horrible things. However, since the last time I was banned(which was several months ago) i've been a decent user. Nothing more and nothing less.

 

edit: I find it very funny how you personally insult me instead of discussing the actual topic. 

How am I not discussing the topic and when did I insult you?

I brought up the issue of religious threads recently being infected by trolls. Instead for you talking about that, you went ahead and just said it's ironic since I contribute to the issue and am a horrible user.

 

The only reason I made this thread was because I want to make vgchartz better. It started with me, and I have stopped being a troll.



 

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Paperboy_J said:
Atheists are always talking like robots, using words like "illogical" and whatnot. But the truth is, we're all illogical. HUMAN BEINGS are illogical. Every single person on this site is illogical. Why do we play videogames? They serve no purpose for survival what so ever, yet we spend our hard-earned cash to indulge in them. Why?

If logic was truly all there was to life, all there was in you, you'd spend every dime you made on your survival. Yet you spend your money on something as pointless as videogames. Why is that?

Tell me you've never had a cheeseburger or piece of candy, or any kind of junk food, and tell me again how "logical" you are.

VideoGames help Game Developers put food on the table. Also if there was no such thing as Videogames people would be bored to death and I'm serious about that.



why should it really effect you, if you don't like the threads don't click on them. the same applies to even video game disccusions that rile you up. if you're a Sony or Nintendo fanboy and someone opens a thread saying "Sony/Nintendo are going to fail for THIS reason!" then don't click on it if you tend to get stressed out or bothered by that sort of debate

same applies to politics and religion. 

its just too easy NOT to get involved and click for you to be this dramatic about it. its like the people who always end up in the gossip and drama who just keeping saying "omg ya'll are crazy for starting shit all the time". You're putting yourself IN the drama by clicking on the stuff and then bitching about the stuff



hershel_layton said:
ohmylanta1003 said:

How am I not discussing the topic and when did I insult you?

I brought up the issue of religious threads recently being infected by trolls. Instead for you talking about that, you went ahead and just said it's ironic since I contribute to the issue and am a horrible user.

 

The only reason I made this thread was because I want to make vgchartz better. It started with me, and I have stopped being a troll.

HA. This site will be dead in a year FAXXXX.