You're the one claiming people like me are in denial. That's an insult. You're insulting other people and then when you recieve similar insults back, you act like you're being attacked, when in reality it's just the reciprocation of an attack you first made. Stop acting so butt-hurt that people are laughing at your arrogant faith, you're doing the very things you claim to be so upset over.

On top of that, no one claims that the world came from nothing. If that's your understanding of mankind's current scientific understanding of the creation of the universe, then it just goes to show how little you understand it. Then you go and try to insult others for pointing out how obviously wrong you think they are when the reality of it is that you're just embarassing yourself by demonstrating your lack of knowledge. And you wonder why people laugh? You're making a fool of yourself and you don't even know it.

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Wrong. An atheist is someone who lacks belieif in a deity. Its is not the same as someone that beliefs there is no god. It's fine that you want to treat altheist as a religion, but all it demonstrates is your ignorance on the subject.

Now you're really starting to piss me off.. I never said atheist is a religion. What I said, now listen very close... What I said is  Atheist goes around preaching down your throat that God does not exist, while agnostic will remine skeptical.

 I give you an example like Sam Harris, and about what he does for a living, and you have the audacity to call me ignorant. Now go piss off, don't reply to me again.

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You're the one claiming that Sam Harris "preaches". You might have said that you believe that atheism is a religion, but you certainly implied that you believe that is the case. Furthermore, you're still wrong about what you're using as definitions for "athiest" and "agnostic". You're incorrectly labelling an "athiest" as "someone who believes there is no god" and "agnostic" as "someone who is skeptical about whether or not a god exists".

There's no other way to say it. This is wrong. Your insult to being told that doesn't change the truth of that.

Again, (a)thiesm is the belief (or lack of belief) in a deity. (A)gnosticism is the belief (or lack of beleif) that you can know that a deity exists. The two aren't mutually exclusive. Sam Harris is an example of a very vocal gnostic athiest. The fact that you're using him as an example of what it means to be an atheist is the same as me using Fred Phelps as an example of what it means to be a christian, when we both know most athiests and christians aren't like either.

Interesting tidbit: when Sir Isaac Newton was investigating the movement of the planets, he quite clearly saw the hand of God at work. He wrote:

https://www.amazon.com/Universe-Nothing-There-Something-Rather/dp/1451624468

You're kidding! A christian with the most basic of telescopic technology attributed something to a god which he otherwise could not explain? Color me shocked!

Care to point out that hand of god in any of the images, say, the hubble space telescope has taken? I bet you can't.

It's almost like all of those miracles that happened all over the earth that every heard about for hundreds of years, that dramatically started to decrease with the invention of of the video camera. That god of yours must be some coy rascal to only present miracles to the world when no camera is recording it!

Perhaps you should read the book instead of the title. He doesn't actually claim the universe happened out of nothing, but rather, came out of an unknown that, when over-simplified, would effectively be "nothing".

Preaching = publicly proclaim or teach (a religious message or belief). This is what Sam Harris does, and other Athiest that follows him.

Didn't I tell you not to reply? I feel like you're posting just to waste time, and read what I've bold. It is the same thing.

Even setting aside the content of what Sam Harris says (the fact that you call them a debate already sets it apart from preaching) this is a basic failure of logic.

Muhammed Wilkerson is a Muslim.  Muhammed Wilkerson plays defensive end for the New York Jets.  Does that mean I can say "Muslims play defensive end for the New York Jets"?