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Rogerioandrade on 13 October 2016
Platina said:
I don't regret my purchase of the Wii U because of the exact same reasons, it has a lot of great games...
Splatoon, Smash 4, 3D World, Pikmin 3, Mario Kart 8, Xenoblade X, The Wind Waker HD etc. etc.

What I am disappointed about, is that Nintendo dropped support so quickly. Sure, the Wii U has a good library of 1st party games, but it could have had more good games.. Nintendo's last push was in 2015, and the games that it got were all not very good, and in 2016, they basically completely gave up on it, while still supporting the 3DS. They were supporting a dying console, but then immediately gave up and walked out. Even having some cross gen games would be good, but it's obvious that they moved all their development teams to the NX. Any new games that could have been on the Wii U were moved to the NX

It's a good console, with a short life

I have the same feeling. 

I´m still having a lot of fun with the WiiU and I´m sure I´ll still be playing it for at least one year since I have a huge backlog of games to play (and to buy). It´s definetely a good console with a good library. But it has not recieved so much love from Nintendo like, for example, the Gamecube recieved. Nintendo skipped some key franchises from the WiiU (Animal Crossing, Metroid, Fire Emblem).

I´m left with the feeling that Nintendo could have done more, they could have made better advertisement, they could have searched for more partnerships and improve the WiiU library. And I´m afraid that the premature abandonment of development for the system may have hurted the confidence that many Nintendo customers had n the company and its products. Or even the market.

I think that, in the future, the WiiU will be remembered as the Dreamcast is remembered now -  for how unnappreciated it was when it was on the market, and will be a very valuable collector´s piece for its exclusive games and acessories. 



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GoOnKid on 13 October 2016
b00moscone said:

Yeah, in my opinion the Wii U is a fine system with a host of great games. However, I feel the problem for many is that not all of the Wii U's great titles will appeal to everyone, and once a person has played all the games they were interested in, there won't be anymore to release and fill that gap. Furthermore, even if a game has a lot of content, that won't mean that a player will necessarily go through all that content. Imagine trying to go through all of Hyrule Warrior's content, it'd almost certainly get boring, and i'm saying that as someone who very much enjoyed the game.

Now, compare that to the PS4/XOne. Sure, there may not be replacements to some of the games the Wii U has, in-terms of quantity or quality, but if a person likes the games coming to those systems they can rest assured more will come in the future, and even if they will not buy all these they will know that there will be games available to buy, with some being on-par with Nintendo's titles if you look objectively. This comparison is likely why people are coming to the conclusion that the Wii U being dead is a bad thing, and in my opinion, rightly so.

Thank you for that interesting thought.

To adress the first paragraph, I think this generation is extremely divisive when it comes to the distribution of certain genres. Therefore, you are either interested in a Wii U's games or another consoles' games. So let's say you are into platformers, you buy a Wii U because the other consoles hardly have any. Let's say you love FIFA, you buy an Xbox One. But of course there are those who have a very broad taste and like many different games. I believe that those gamers will usually own a second console just because of this divisive distribution, so they can satisfy all their needs.

Now you've hit the nail on the head with the second paragraph: "... but if a person likes the games coming to those systems they can rest assured more will come in the future, and even if they will not buy all these they will know that there will be games available to buy, ..."

Why is this a comforting thought? Why does this have any relevance to your enjoyment? SInce if the Wii U runs out of games for one's interest, then the other consoles won't be able to fix it, too.



Ljink96 on 13 October 2016

I could care less about Wii U being dead. It had some great games, but Nintendo is moving on to greater things hopefully. Nintendo got into HD too late and it bit them hard. Coupled with the silly name, poor launch lineup, and a library consisting of great Nintendo games...and only great Nintendo games..., Wii U suffered because of the mistakes it made.



GoOnKid on 13 October 2016
Rogerioandrade said:
Platina said:
I don't regret my purchase of the Wii U because of the exact same reasons, it has a lot of great games...
Splatoon, Smash 4, 3D World, Pikmin 3, Mario Kart 8, Xenoblade X, The Wind Waker HD etc. etc.

What I am disappointed about, is that Nintendo dropped support so quickly. Sure, the Wii U has a good library of 1st party games, but it could have had more good games.. Nintendo's last push was in 2015, and the games that it got were all not very good, and in 2016, they basically completely gave up on it, while still supporting the 3DS. They were supporting a dying console, but then immediately gave up and walked out. Even having some cross gen games would be good, but it's obvious that they moved all their development teams to the NX. Any new games that could have been on the Wii U were moved to the NX

It's a good console, with a short life

I have the same feeling. 

I´m still having a lot of fun with the WiiU and I´m sure I´ll still be playing it for at least one year since I have a huge backlog of games to play (and to buy). It´s definetely a good console with a good library. But it has not recieved so much love from Nintendo like, for example, the Gamecube recieved. Nintendo skipped some key franchises from the WiiU (Animal Crossing, Metroid, Fire Emblem).

I´m left with the feeling that Nintendo could have done more, they could have made better advertisement, they could have searched for more partnerships and improve the WiiU library. And I´m afraid that the premature abandonment of development for the system may have hurted the confidence that many Nintendo customers had n the company and its products. Or even the market.

I think that, in the future, the WiiU will be remembered as the Dreamcast is remembered now -  for how unnappreciated it was when it was on the market, and will be a very valuable collector´s piece for its exclusive games and acessories. 

This is to adress both of you. I understand your feelings. It's a shame that the console sold so bad. If it sold better, Nintendo would keep making games for it. Sadly, dropping it is the only real choice Nintendo had, since even the biggest games couldn't reach out to the masses, unfortunately. It wouldn't make any financial sense to keep making games for it, even though I believe that Nintendo could have been deliviering some more nice ideas.



bigtakilla on 13 October 2016
160rmf said:
Jpcc86 said:

Of course its subjective. Its an opinion. But regardless of wether you agree or not, its  a popular opinion. 

based on what?

Nothing, in fact most people would say the opposite. There are only a VERY small pool of games that most people would say are "bad". The only games that come to mind for Wii U are Star Fox Zero, Devils Third and Amiibo Festival. 



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MasterCeddy on 13 October 2016

The Wii U was a console with a lot of potential, however it never got the love it deserved from the creators, Nintendo. There's not enough games, not enough support. I sold my Wii U to some dude on eBay because I thought the console was really dead...and it is.

The mistake all started with the name (Wii U) which is a bad name because it alienated their target audience. Wii U owners are hardcore Nintendo fans, not the families with young children. Because they don't know the difference between Wii and Wii U. 

Then after...they have the pricey gamepad, which makes it hard for the console to get prices cut despite it being much weaker than the competitors.

Also, Nintendo admited that while the gamepad idea was innovative at first, it didn't live up to the expectations, because of the fast-pace changing technology.

Overall, the Wii U is a mess. A beautiful mess, but still a mess. 

It will go down in history as a failure.

Not a DreamCast like failure, a failure on its own. 

R.I.P



GoOnKid on 13 October 2016
Mar1217 said:
GoOnKid said:


Now let's say history went differently and the Wii U sold like warm bread, while having the exact same library. Would these people think otherwise about it? Me thinks yes. I think the salt comes from having a feeling of misinvestment, if that makes sense. It's human psychology to have a desire to be a part of the largest available group in order to feel safe. Not everyone has the balls to withstand that.


Therefore, I couldn't give less f*cks about the Wii U being dead or not. It's a pretty awesome console nonetheless.

But you're still talking about a loud minority here that occupies our ''oh dear'' internet/social media.

The psychology part is pretty straight on.  

I am honest here. I don't get your point.

Thank you.



Platina on 13 October 2016
GoOnKid said:
Rogerioandrade said:

I have the same feeling. 

I´m still having a lot of fun with the WiiU and I´m sure I´ll still be playing it for at least one year since I have a huge backlog of games to play (and to buy). It´s definetely a good console with a good library. But it has not recieved so much love from Nintendo like, for example, the Gamecube recieved. Nintendo skipped some key franchises from the WiiU (Animal Crossing, Metroid, Fire Emblem).

I´m left with the feeling that Nintendo could have done more, they could have made better advertisement, they could have searched for more partnerships and improve the WiiU library. And I´m afraid that the premature abandonment of development for the system may have hurted the confidence that many Nintendo customers had n the company and its products. Or even the market.

I think that, in the future, the WiiU will be remembered as the Dreamcast is remembered now -  for how unnappreciated it was when it was on the market, and will be a very valuable collector´s piece for its exclusive games and acessories. 

This is to adress both of you. I understand your feelings. It's a shame that the console sold so bad. If it sold better, Nintendo would keep making games for it. Sadly, dropping it is the only real choice Nintendo had, since even the biggest games couldn't reach out to the masses, unfortunately. It wouldn't make any financial sense to keep making games for it, even though I believe that Nintendo could have been deliviering some more nice ideas.

Nintendo was in a really tight spot and I agree that Nintendo didn't really have any other option

But I totally agree with the bolded above, in that though the Wii U had good support, the lifeline was cut in around 3-4 years which is pretty short for a console. That and that the Wii U games are being ported to other systems, and no doubt, to the NX as well

I'm still playing on the Wii U, just am disapointed I won't be getting any other great games next to Zelda BotW



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160rmf on 13 October 2016
GoOnKid said:
Rogerioandrade said:

I have the same feeling. 

I´m still having a lot of fun with the WiiU and I´m sure I´ll still be playing it for at least one year since I have a huge backlog of games to play (and to buy). It´s definetely a good console with a good library. But it has not recieved so much love from Nintendo like, for example, the Gamecube recieved. Nintendo skipped some key franchises from the WiiU (Animal Crossing, Metroid, Fire Emblem).

I´m left with the feeling that Nintendo could have done more, they could have made better advertisement, they could have searched for more partnerships and improve the WiiU library. And I´m afraid that the premature abandonment of development for the system may have hurted the confidence that many Nintendo customers had n the company and its products. Or even the market.

I think that, in the future, the WiiU will be remembered as the Dreamcast is remembered now -  for how unnappreciated it was when it was on the market, and will be a very valuable collector´s piece for its exclusive games and acessories. 

This is to adress both of you. I understand your feelings. It's a shame that the console sold so bad. If it sold better, Nintendo would keep making games for it. Sadly, dropping it is the only real choice Nintendo had, since even the biggest games couldn't reach out to the masses, unfortunately. It wouldn't make any financial sense to keep making games for it, even though I believe that Nintendo could have been deliviering some more nice ideas.

Exactly. To add with this, game development is a lot bigger than it was in 6th gen. People can't expect nintendo releasing a huge HD metroid, fire emblem or animal crossing on Wii U. These games would be received by Wii U owners with pleasure, but Nintendo wouldn't receive the return for the big investment.



 

 

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GoOnKid on 13 October 2016
MasterCeddy said:

The Wii U was a console with a lot of potential, however it never got the love it deserved from the creators, Nintendo. There's not enough games, not enough support. I sold my Wii U to some dude on eBay because I thought the console was really dead...and it is.

Do you mean that in general or do you mean there are not enough games for your taste? And how else could it have been supported other than with games? That's a synonym, right? The only other support I could imagine is selling the thing in diferent colors, but that wouldn't have turned the ship, either.

The mistake all started with the name (Wii U) which is a bad name because it alienated their target audience. Wii U owners are hardcore Nintendo fans, not the families with young children. Because they don't know the difference between Wii and Wii U. 

Agreed.

Then after...they have the pricey gamepad, which makes it hard for the console to get prices cut despite it being much weaker than the competitors.

The objective difference in output due to hardware power is diminishing. An uninformed consumer doens't give a shit about hardware power, anyway. And besides, the Gamepad is the reason for the best thing gaming has ever witnessed: off-TV-play!

Also, Nintendo admited that while the gamepad idea was innovative at first, it didn't live up to the expectations, because of the fast-pace changing technology.

Agreed. Well, hindsight is 20/20.

Overall, the Wii U is a mess. A beautiful mess, but still a mess. 

It will go down in history as a failure.

Not a DreamCast like failure, a failure on its own. 

R.I.P