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Wyrdness said:
DanneSandin said:

@Bolded: But wouldn't it make sense for them to be able to choose which platform they work on? Nintendo can't just decide if you're gonna make portable games or not, can they? I'm pretty sure Capcom would like to develop a Monster Hunter game for Nintendo's HH, but if they got a HC dev kit instead... Well, then they wouldn't make a MH game for it, would they? Shouldn't Nintendo be asking, "So, you want the home console dev kit, or the portable dev kit?"

As of right now, I'm kinda devided. I'm not sure if this will be two destinct devices, one home console with a controller similar to Wii U's gamepad which you can take with you and play on, and one portable console with a lot more features (and maybe even Internet access?) compared to the HC's gamepad. Or if it's all just one hybrid device.

I found those leaked patents really intruiging, especially the possibility to connect your HC and HH to boost the power. Or linking two HC to boost the power. I saw a lot of posibilities in those patents!

Why would a company give a studio a HC DK before a platform launches when they've never done a game for HC? Companies like Capcom and SE would have both DKs because they're not only priority but do both HH and HC games that's not the same as developer like Renegade Kid who mainly focus on HH, even then I assure you these companies wouldn't give the HC DK to one of their HH focused studio because the studio wouldn't. These studios can register their interest and recieve one later on but right now it would be about getting the appropriate kits to priority studios.

To me two devices is just more plausible as the's less chance for conflicts in the HH and HC element and would make things easier for Nintendo to execute.

How do you mean that it would make things easier for Nintendo? I see one (two) big advantagese for having two different devices; they'd make more money. Even if both consoles shares the majority of games between them, having two distinkt consoles would mean Nintendo can make exclusive titles for both and thus having people double dipping.



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DanneSandin said:

How do you mean that it would make things easier for Nintendo? I see one (two) big advantagese for having two different devices; they'd make more money. Even if both consoles shares the majority of games between them, having two distinkt consoles would mean Nintendo can make exclusive titles for both and thus having people double dipping.

As Iwata reference family of devices the expression don't put all your eggs in one basket comes to mind, not only can they focus on making each platform as good as they can to their strengths one platform having any difficulty wouldn't impact the other as much even though they'd share the same ecosystem and library.

By making the ecosystem the platform much like IOS instead of merging the hardware into one separate dedicated devices can be built to the best of their strengths and aims rather than having the goals and restrictions of HH and HC conflict.



Wyrdness said:
DanneSandin said:

How do you mean that it would make things easier for Nintendo? I see one (two) big advantagese for having two different devices; they'd make more money. Even if both consoles shares the majority of games between them, having two distinkt consoles would mean Nintendo can make exclusive titles for both and thus having people double dipping.

As Iwata reference family of devices the expression don't put all your eggs in one basket comes to mind, not only can they focus on making each platform as good as they can to their strengths one platform having any difficulty wouldn't impact the other as much even though they'd share the same ecosystem and library.

By making the ecosystem the platform much like IOS instead of merging the hardware into one separate dedicated devices can be built to the best of their strengths and aims rather than having the goals and restrictions of HH and HC conflict.

Yes, I agree. And this would also explain why all the retail reps are being trained together; this ecosystem of family consoles would need extra clarification and explanation.



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Wyrdness said:
DanneSandin said:

How do you mean that it would make things easier for Nintendo? I see one (two) big advantagese for having two different devices; they'd make more money. Even if both consoles shares the majority of games between them, having two distinkt consoles would mean Nintendo can make exclusive titles for both and thus having people double dipping.

As Iwata reference family of devices the expression don't put all your eggs in one basket comes to mind, not only can they focus on making each platform as good as they can to their strengths one platform having any difficulty wouldn't impact the other as much even though they'd share the same ecosystem and library.

By making the ecosystem the platform much like IOS instead of merging the hardware into one separate dedicated devices can be built to the best of their strengths and aims rather than having the goals and restrictions of HH and HC conflict.

I dont at all that reference "family of devices" has anuthing with "don't put all your eggs in one basket", Iwata in that time just said that they were thinking about unifed platform and same eco system, like iOS and Android. But it seem after that they decided that is better than in middle of generation release hybrid device instead separate handheld and separate home console, Iwat year later said: "still, I am not sure if the form factor (the size and configuration of the hardware) will be integrated" and "Whether we will ultimately need just one device will be determined by what consumers demand in the future, and that is not something we know at the moment."

 

 

Akeos said:
Miyamotoo,
Nintendo can't want making a portable with powerful.... Tegra X1 need 20 watts for 1 TFLOPS... So battery life will be 1 or 2 hours and that's nice to make a other Samsung note 7... Don't forget Nintendo's audience > young public and family....

Why trying to port home games on handheld ? When it's easy to make a home console whose accepting HC and HH games... ?

What is the biggest problème for Nintendo ? Having à lot of games on portable or home console ?

I think home console NX and portable NX will use the same OS, not to have the same games but to have a lots of features together, and if you don't like playing on handheld, you will have its games on home console...

And why would portable need 1 TFLOPS of power!?

Its not about porting home games on handheld, its about to have one product that is appealing for handheld and home audience and about having development just for that one device.

Biggest problem was for Nintendo is developing games and support of two different platforms in same time, but second problem is to release appealing product in middle of generation, and seems that hybrid device is answer for both problems.

I think that also, expect they are basically same but detachable product, mobile unit and base unit in same package (hybrid of home console and handheld), not totally separate home console and totally separate handheld.



Miyamotoo said:

I dont at all that reference "family of devices" has anuthing with "don't put all your eggs in one basket", Iwata in that time just said that they were thinking about unifed platform and same eco system, like iOS and Android. But it seem after that they decided that is better than in middle of generation release hybrid device instead separate handheld and separate home console, Iwat year later said: "still, I am not sure if the form factor (the size and configuration of the hardware) will be integrated" and "Whether we will ultimately need just one device will be determined by what consumers demand in the future, and that is not something we know at the moment."

 

Mate you believe what you want, having only one device as a hybrid is putting all their egss in one basket as everything is then riding on that one device doing well, if it turns out flawed the only saving grace is that the would be no competition in the portable market. A family of devices doesn't have this problem and fits in with the IOS and Android reference much better than a hybrid device does.



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Miyamotoo, i just say tegra X is bad choice for HH... HH need 50 to 100 GFLOPS... No more... there is a lot of better solutions... DMP, Samsung, snapdragon...



Wyrdness said:
Miyamotoo said:

I dont at all that reference "family of devices" has anuthing with "don't put all your eggs in one basket", Iwata in that time just said that they were thinking about unifed platform and same eco system, like iOS and Android. But it seem after that they decided that is better than in middle of generation release hybrid device instead separate handheld and separate home console, Iwat year later said: "still, I am not sure if the form factor (the size and configuration of the hardware) will be integrated" and "Whether we will ultimately need just one device will be determined by what consumers demand in the future, and that is not something we know at the moment."

 

Mate you believe what you want, having only one device as a hybrid is putting all their egss in one basket as everything is then riding on that one device doing well, if it turns out flawed the only saving grace is that the would be no competition in the portable market. A family of devices doesn't have this problem and fits in with the IOS and Android reference much better than a hybrid device does.

Doesn't matter at all if Nintendo think that it's better to release hybrid device in middle of generation than new home console and new handheld. Like I wrote, year after mention of "family of devices", they talked about possibility of integrated form factor and just one device.

 

Akeos said:
Miyamotoo, i just say tegra X is bad choice for HH... HH need 50 to 100 GFLOPS... No more... there is a lot of better solutions... DMP, Samsung, snapdragon...

Depends of purpose of handheld, Tegra can provide around 3x more powerful than Wii U, and all rumours saying that NX is Nvidia Tegra based.



Someone probably said this but I'm gonna back them up. Nintendo needs to reveal the NX before the Christmas season so consumers won't spend most of their money on the holidays and be very hesitant to buy another electronic priced over $200. So I think NX reveal before January is 100% possible.