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hershel_layton said:
This is why Apple stays on top. It seems as though no Android company can climb up without slipping on Diddy Kong's banana peel and falling to their death.

I get doing bad in sales. I also understand faulty batteries. But screwing up twice in a row over the same thing? Come on. Everyone laughed at LG for disappointing G5 sales, but at least they didn't lose $20bn in the span of 48 hours.

Apple slips, they did many times. It's just phones catching fire at this rate is unforgivable. 

OT:

How many units was the Note 7 projected to sell? I was actually surprised the initial shipment was only 2.5 million units, too low for the phone with the second largest hype train behind it.

Anyhow, I think large-sized Android phones from LG, Nexus and probaby PIXEL XL will benefit the most, not just the iPhone 7. If you are looking for a phablet with a stylus, well, you are out of luck. I hope Sammy recovers soon.



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hershel_layton said:
This is why Apple stays on top. It seems as though no Android company can climb up without slipping on Diddy Kong's banana peel and falling to their death.

I get doing bad in sales. I also understand faulty batteries. But screwing up twice in a row over the same thing? Come on. Everyone laughed at LG for disappointing G5 sales, but at least they didn't lose $20bn in the span of 48 hours.

Apple had/has exploding battery issues as well.
The older iPhones (I.E. iPhone 3) had their battery's expand, some screens would pop-off, fires, explosions etc'.

Sony also had exploding laptop battery's at one point as well, which cost them Billions.

Fact is, Lithium Polymer is not a safe chemistry and if you think Apple is immune, think again.

morenoingrato said:
I wish this would mean other Android brands like HTC, Sony, Google could snatch some marketshare from Samsung and remain competitive.
What will probably happen is Apple will capitalize on this opportunity.

Let's hope so. The mobile market has stagnated for a few years now, would be nice for other manufacturers to snag some marketshare and drive home innovation again.

hershel_layton said:

if you want a premium phablet, I recommend the V20. Great hardware and great software without the G5's failed modern concept

 

edit: i recommend the note 5 too. Yes, it's 1 year old, but still extremely fast. I've seen it for as low as 500

I'm a Note 5 user. It's a decent phone I guess. It's well priced now.
But you do loose multiple features over the Note 7.

It's hardware is starting to show it's age now though... And you might get one more major Android OS upgrade and that is it for that device.
You would probably be better off with the Samsung Galaxy S7, you loose the S-Pen and 0.2" of screen, but you can get a cover with a built in stylus if you need it.

LurkerJ said:

How many units was the Note 7 projected to sell? I was actually surprised the initial shipment was only 2.5 million units, too low for the phone with the second largest hype train behind it.

The Samsung Galaxy note 2 sold about 38~ million handsets in it's entire lifetime, so that's the target to reach I guess.

But it vary's between releases... Likely depends on peoples needs/wants to upgrade.
The Galaxy Note 5 was the low point due to smaller battery capacity, removal of MicroSD, removable of the ability to replace battery's (I bet they regret that decision now.) and other things.

But I guess the low-point will be the Note 7 now, don't be surprised if they can the entire lineup.



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Man, Samsung should've tested the phones more thoroughly before releasing them to the world so that they don't end up dropping production of it altogether.



As much as I love smartphones, I hate that they are all premium priced now and at most have a shelf life of 1-2 years.

I think Android needs to look at making a closed version of Android that can run perfectly on older tech and start killing the Iphone market by releasing premium phones at £250 with Samsung and Sony backing them.

Apple will most likely capitalise on this since they are seen as Samsung's main competitor and paying silly money will triumph.



Pemalite said:

The Samsung Galaxy note 2 sold about 38~ million handsets in it's entire lifetime, so that's the target to reach I guess.


But it vary's between releases... Likely depends on peoples needs/wants to upgrade.
The Galaxy Note 5 was the low point due to smaller battery capacity, removal of MicroSD, removable of the ability to replace battery's (I bet they regret that decision now.) and other things.

But I guess the low-point will be the Note 7 now, don't be surprised if they can the entire lineup.

We'll see. The Note devices were bound to sell less as the competitors started making bigger screen sizes as well.

I am more interested in how the whole fiasco might affect other Samsung devices. Interesting times.



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Fei-Hung said:
As much as I love smartphones, I hate that they are all premium priced now and at most have a shelf life of 1-2 years.

I think Android needs to look at making a closed version of Android that can run perfectly on older tech and start killing the Iphone market by releasing premium phones at £250 with Samsung and Sony backing them.

Apple will most likely capitalise on this since they are seen as Samsung's main competitor and paying silly money will triumph.

Why the hell would Samsung want to kill the premium smartphone market? They are one of the TWO manufacturers that benefit the most from that very market, and unlike Apple, they don't invest nearly as much on the software they ship. A different skin on top of Android and extra tricks here and there to differentiate their devices, a much easier job now that Google adopted most of those tricks and baked them into stock vanilla Android.

Besides, Android handsets manufacturers don't make money off the Playstore or Ads. It all goes to Google. Your plan is unrealistic. Not to mention, SONY is irrelevant in the smartphone market.



Fei-Hung said:
As much as I love smartphones, I hate that they are all premium priced now and at most have a shelf life of 1-2 years.

I think Android needs to look at making a closed version of Android that can run perfectly on older tech and start killing the Iphone market by releasing premium phones at £250 with Samsung and Sony backing them.

Apple will most likely capitalise on this since they are seen as Samsung's main competitor and paying silly money will triumph.

There are up-and-coming Smartphones which use Premium materials and offer decent screens and performance for the mid-range now, you don't have to look any farther than Oppo for that.

Majority of Samsungs 100+ million smartphone sales a year isn't actually high-end devices anyway, it's mid and low-end.

With that said... I wish the Android market would sort itself out in the software space.
My Lumia 920 had years worth of updates and software upgrades and still feels as fast as the day I bought it even with Windows Phone 10... That's in contrast to most Apple devices where performance seems to depreciate every year... And Android devices are forgotten about as soon as the next big thing arrives.

But in order for that change to happen I think Google will need to take the updating reigns from Phone Manufacturers and Network providers. I.E. Not gonna' happen.
One thing is for sure, I'll never own another Samsung Phone after my Note 5, way to many Cons and not enough Pro's.

LurkerJ said:

We'll see. The Note devices were bound to sell less as the competitors started making bigger screen sizes as well.

I am more interested in how the whole fiasco might affect other Samsung devices. Interesting times.

That's a good point. Competitors have caught up.
Even Samsung's mainline S series isn't that different from the Note now in terms of screen size.



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The Note brand didn't really exist anymore anyway. They should just make a new brand and name it Galaxy S XL for people with non-Trump hands.



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Fuck samsung. Been a fan but I've noticed the quality go downhill with the focus on the pointless gimmicky phones like the edge.

Now they have fucked themselves good. Expect quality for their next few phones to suffer equally.

Think I might make the switch to Google or HTC.