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zero129 said:
Leadified said:

Considering that you called him a sheeple, his reply back to you was really not that bad so, no.

Really that sounds nice but I don't think I could take that offer from anybody. I like the freedom of being able to argue with anybody.

I didnt call him a sheeple O_o. I did say after that reply if he wanted to keeo his head in the sand that was ok after i showed him the links of so called Conspiracys such as MK Ultra etc that turned out to be 100% real. So yes i would use that word you used now but i really dont remember calling him that.

And trust me the is good money involved .

Technically speaking you didn't since you just bolded his post, I personally don't think too much about it but it seems he took it a different way. You don't need to defend yourself because I'm not going to do anything .



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Ahhh grand government conspiracies. The place where the crazy left and the kooky right meet on common ground.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

Well remember ten years ago the NSA was seen as tin foil hat conspiracy.



nanarchy said:
Not interested in the dodgy conspiracy website but the sad reality is there is very little difference between the various factions in Syria, If they change regimes and control shifts to one of the rebel groups it won't stop the atrocities it will simply mean a different group in Syria is on the receiving end. The US support the side that in the end has the best economic and political advantage to them, just as do Russia. Syria in its current makeup will always need someone like Assad at the top to have any hope of maintaining control, the only other option would be to break up the country based on the various distinct groups, you would still probably end up with war between them.

Yup, you pretty much nailed it. There are no "good guys" in this conflict and whoever gets installed in power after Assad may well be far worse than Assad himself (think a Sunni relgious extremist). We went through this before thinking killing Saddam would turn Iraq into a Westernized paradise. 



Shadow1980 said:
LadyJasmine said:

I am sorry you seem more blind then a reasonable person as you advertise your self to be, if you do think if there is not something 'odd' or unquestionable about that. 

The JFK conspiracy theory is the most valid and legit conspiracy theory of our time. 

To dismiss it shows your a conformist to a lying government. 

If I'm "blind" for not believing in obviously transparent bullshit, then so be it. The claims of crank movements like conspiracy theorists are not deserving of respect, and quite frankly neither are the people themselves who perpetrate this X-Files-esque view of the world. They drag down the quality of discourse with their paranoid ravings. Theirs is a worldview impervious to all facts and reasoning, where their pet theories are deliberately insulated from disproof. Any evidence that contradicts their pet theories is dismissed as coming from "they." Any and all "official stories" are reflexively dismissed out of hand.

Moreover, they refuse to believe that they live in a world where some random lone maniac or person with a grudge can cause immense tragedy and even change the course of world events, all because they just happen to be in the right place at the right time. To them, JFK couldn't have possibly been killed by Lee Harvey Oswald. It had to have been the CIA or Castro or the KGB or the Mafia or Mossad or whoever (literally dozens of individuals and groups have been named by conspiracy theorists; they can't seem to agree on who the "real" perpetrator was). Nevermind that Oswald had the motivation and the political and criminal background to be the kind of guy who'd try to kill a president. Nevermind that he had the training and skill to pull off a shot that was so easy that someone of far lesser skill could pull it off. Nevermind all the evidence being totally consistent with there being a single shooter (Oswald) in the sixth floor of the book depository at Dealy Plaza (see below for a video debunking the "magic bullet" theory).

Some people just absolutely refuse that we could live in a world where a lone gunman could murder the most powerful head of state in the world. They think everything has to be under someone's control, that everything happens for a reason, and every major event must have a major cause, a cause perpetrated by some nebulously-defined but almost certainly nefarious group of individuals in positions of power. Put short, they don't want to believe they live in a world where "shit happens," and therefore invent elaborate conspiracies to place the world in a twisted sort of order, but an order nonetheless. But shit most certainly does happen, and it's not "The Powers that Be" that causes it. Sometimes a random nobody or a small group of dedicated radicals can cause more damage than even the mightiest governments.

Look imo not questioning the offical story when the CIA and government agencies were not forthcoming at all to invesigators about this case.

 

'In the same 2003 interview, Robert Blakey, issued a statement on the Central Intelligence Agency:

...I no longer believe that we were able to conduct an appropriate investigation of the [Central Intelligence] Agency and its relationship to Oswald.... We now know that the Agency withheld from the Warren Commission the CIA-Mafia plots to kill Castro. Had the commission known of the plots, it would have followed a different path in its investigation. The Agency unilaterally deprived the commission of a chance to obtain the full truth, which will now never be known. Significantly, the Warren Commission's conclusion that the agencies of the government co-operated with it is, in retrospect, not the truth. We also now know that the Agency set up a process that could only have been designed to frustrate the ability of the committee in 1976-79 to obtain any information that might adversely affect the Agency. Many have told me that the culture of the Agency is one of prevarication and dissimulation and that you cannot trust it or its people. Period. End of story. I am now in that camp.[24]'

 

 

Imo to slam the book on this file suggest when clearly the entire facts of this case were never collected and never will be collected. 

 

 

As a result neither yourself or I can say we are right about the offical story, so you can stop with your BS moralizing that all conspiracy theories are bunk.