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Can't put video on, wife is sleeping. What's the deal in the video?



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Shadow1980 said:
Conspiracy nut webshite. Not a credible source. You do know that kooky fringe sites and random Facebook posts do not constitute what any rational person would consider reputable news sources, do you not? Oh, wait. That dastardly mainstream media is in on the conspiracy and I'm just one of the "sheeple" that needs to "WAKE UP!", right?

While i do agree with your points, it's obvious that the issue in Syria needs to be solved before it creates a domino effect. 

I am pretty sure that no one thought Syria would be in such a horrible condition 5 years ago. If such tensions continue to arise, we can start seeing Syria affecting the relations between other countries.



 

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So what's the goal here? Clinton wants to get people outta there, and Trump already said that Aleppo has fallen so he will most likely do nothing. Either way people are angry with both options. What do you propose?



this type of stuff always reminds me of this video 

 

everything is a conspiracy 

 



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Shadow1980 said:

Yeah. You keep telling yourself that. Here in the real world that exists outside the bubble of epistemic closure that conspiracy theorists live in there are some things that simply aren't true. Well, this is rumor control, and here are the facts:

It's not worth it.  Some people believe what they want to believe without bothering to find out if it's true or not.  A random Facebook post says something they like?  They instantly believe it.  A news article says something they don't like?  Must be a conspiracy.  Some people don't let reality get in the way of their world view.



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I agree. This is one of the reasons I want Trump to win. The petrodollar will die eventually, and, for the sake of the world I want America to get healthy enough to survive such a event without trying to blow up the planet.
When Saddam tried to get out of the petrodollar, America killed him, when Gadaffi tried, they funded a revolution, when Bashar tried, they started the civil war with the Isis card. But Russia is a partner and have interests to defend in that region.
It is a explosive mixture and it must be stopped before it goes to far. No one wants another World War.
The american elite is just too pessimistic, they think America can not survive without the petrodollar money, they do not believe in America.
They are wrong, with effort America can be powerful by itself, without having to be a bully or use funny money tatics.
I hope they see that before it is too late, for the sake of us all.
Also, a America strong by itself is a tremedous blow against the globalist tendence. Which is great for everyone



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WagnerPaiva said:
I agree. This is one of the reasons I want Trump to win. The petrodollar will die eventually, and, for the sake of the world I want America to get healthy enough to survive such a event without trying to blow up the planet.
When Saddam tried to get out of the petrodollar, America killed him, when Gadaffi tried, they funded a revolution, when Bashar tried, they started the civil war with the Isis card. But Russia is a partner and have interests to defend in that region.
It is a explosive mixture and it must be stopped before it goes to far. No one wants another World War.
The american elite is just too pessimistic, they think America can not survive without the petrodollar money, they do not believe in America.
They are wrong, with effort America can be powerful by itself, without having to be a bully or use funny money tatics.
I hope they see that before it is too late, for the sake of us all.
Also, a America strong by itself is a tremedous blow against the globalist tendence. Which is great for everyone

Isn't Trump the one who is saying they will take the oil of the countries he conquers? I don't really think Trump is the solution for petrodollars.



The world is far too twisted to just write off many things. Things which sounds crazy but turned out to be true:

1) US government paying a PR firm $500million to make fake terrorist videos.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/us-government-pentagon-fake-al-qaeda-propganda-videos-a7348371.html

2) FBI creating terrorists out of unstable mentally ill individuals, financing them and arming them.

https://youtu.be/SGG97dDfZ7E

3) everyone who knows their middle east history knows the Saud family were put in power by the British and their allies. We know the nice Hollywood version with Lawrence of Arabia. However, fact is the British and their allies were so desperate to rip apart the Ottomans, they knowingly put a extremist, twisted group in charge with the Sauds.

The Sauds are given control over the land via politics and military whilst individuals who would later form the base of Al Qaeeda and ISIS were given power of controlling faith.

The history of the Saud family has been violent and the teachings were known to be crazy even then, but at that time it didn't matter as they are the complete opposite to Ottomans so they saw it as a win.

Essentially, Britain and it's allies empowered, funded and backed terrorism.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5717157


Of course there are crazy conspiracy theories out there, but you can't write off anything just because it is a conspiracy theory.



Shadow1980 said:
zero129 said:

You said it .

Yeah. You keep telling yourself that. Here in the real world that exists outside the bubble of epistemic closure that conspiracy theorists live in there are some things that simply aren't true. Well, this is rumor control, and here are the facts:

9/11 was not an inside job. It wasn't the Bush administration. It wasn't the Israelis/Mossad. It was Al Qaeda. And Osama bin Laden is fucking dead, and Seal Team Six blew his brains out.

Chemtrails do not exist.

Humans really did land on the moon.

Barack Obama is not a foreign agent or secret Muslim. He's as much of a natural born American as I am, and I'm a white boy who was born in Augusta, Georgia, and there's no reason to doubt he's sincere in his Christian beliefs.

HAARP is not a weather control machine.

Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK and acted alone.

Mass shootings are not a "false flag" perpetrated by the government to strip us of our gun rights.

There is no such thing as FEMA concentration camps.

There are no aliens or alien technology at Area 51 or anywhere else.

Crop circles are a prank pulled by clever people with too much time on their hands.

There is no ominous cabal like the Illuminati or Freemasons or Trilateral Commission secretly controlling the world or trying to create a New World Order. The only NWO that exists was the stable of wrestlers founded by Hogan, Hall, and Nash.

Global warming is not a hoax.

Vaccines do not cause autism.

GMOs are not a plot to control the food supply.

There is no plot to depopulate the planet of "useless eaters" or whatever.

Governments/corporations are not trying to suppress or cover up the existence of "free energy" or the cure for cancer because those things don't exist (and "free energy" never will).

Water flouridation is not a communist plot, or any other kind of plot either, unless you count plotting against dental caries.

The Clintons did not murder Vince Foster (or anyone else for that matter).

Elvis, Kurt Cobain, Tupac, and Michael Jackson are dead. Paul McCartney, however, is still very much alive.

There are no shape-shifting lizard people or other aliens that have infiltrated human societies.

I could go on, but you get the point (plus I got other stuff to do; Gears 4 comes out in less than an hour here). If it's something that came out of the mouth of Alex Jones or Mark Dice or any other conspiracy net (including that yutz who runs the website you linked to), or if it sounds like it could be the plot for an episode of The X-Files, it's essentially guaranteed to be a steaming pile of bullshit, no two ways about it.

The american and many western media outlets clearly are lying and not teelling you the whole truth. Syrian Goverment is the legtime goverment of Syria, the syrian rebels are allied with all nusra etc. which are the same fractions the US is fighting in Afghanistan called alquaeda. 

Its not conspiracy theories, a simple Wikipedia observation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_civil_war 



The truth is that the current war in Syria was orchestrated by Saudi Arabia and the Obama administration to remove Bashar Assad, to open up a corridor for Saudi Arabia to Europe. Europe is energy depended on Russia, Saudi Arabia wanted a piece of the Europe energy market, and to do that they have to go through Syria and Turkey. When pressured by the Saudis, Assad (a long time ally with Russia) said no, and then shithithefan. Back when Obama was elected, I thought that things are going to change for good, nope, republicans and democrats are the same, they bow for the same master. The only difference is that instead of triggering wars and sending the American Army, now they trigger wars and use PMC’s.