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mtu9356 said:

Let me start by saying that I won’t be voting for either candidate.  I just wanted to point out the dirty games that both parties play during election season.

We are witnessing the strategic takedown of Trump in the media by the DNC.

Take a look at CNN for example.  All these videos of Trump have been “surfacing” over the past few weeks and specifically the past few days.  Every few hours it seems CNN has a new Trump headline story.  These videos/sound clips have existed for years and only now are they being brought up.  Strange coincidence that there has been a steady stream of them since Wikileaks dumped 2000 of Hillary’s emails.  Point is don’t let them cause you to forget how unqualified and untrustworthy our next president (Hillary Clinton) is.

When I was a teenager I used to see Democrats as the 'good guys' and Republicans as the 'bad guys'.  This election and the last couple have helped me realize that I was wrong.  Both Democrats and Republicans are 'bad guys'.

Don't blame the DNC... Blame Clinton for distorting them beyond belief... I would prefer a nuclear exchange between Russia and the US to her as the new POTUS... 



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Honestly... Trump takes himself down. Outside help isn't necessary.

What is wrong is that the focus of your elections is trying to dig up dirt and discredit candidates rather than discuss politics and plans of both candidates in further detail. You know that here in europe its like that? It's very rare that we are discussing the candidates private life. What matters is what they are going to do while in office and how it will benefit or not you yourself and the country.

American elections are a joke. The image that both parties are dirty is quite honestly not wrong. But they are american and thats how they do things. You need to change the system before you can change the parties. And no, putting someone crazy in office isn't the solution. Quite honestly, the current president is quite good. Its a shame you can't keep him there.



Scoobes said:
naruball said:

The irony is strong with this one. So strong it's not even funny.

1. I'm not suggesting, I'm outright saying that in several European countries life is much worse than in America. Have you lived in Greece? Albania? Serbia? Bulgaria? Cyprus? 

2. Read what I wrote again instead of what you imagined I did. "several European countries". Not all.

3. That's vague as hell. Wanna be more specific? How are LGBT rights? How is the job market? I'm gonna let you on a little secret: what matters to you may not matter to another citizen.

4. Not sure what social servers are, but wanna back up that claim about "level of happiness"? A couple of sources will do.

5. Define ever. So, was America a few centuries ago without modern medicine and human rights better? Was it better when there were slaves and black and gay people were getting murdered while most people didn't give a damn? (same with the rest of the world and basic human rights). Le'ts be real.

6. I'm gonna inform all my American friends who are not rich that they are mistaken about being happy. Apparently, they aren't. How anyone can be this misinformed is beyond me.

Well, you could always look here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report

USA is 14th.

8 European countries are ahead of the US. 

And your point is what exactly?



Locknuts said:
Now that Sanders is out of the race, Trump is the only one who can destroy the broken system so that it can be rebuilt. Hopefully in accordance with the vision of the founding fathers. Clinton will just perpetuate the system.

 

AsGryffynn said:

Don't blame the DNC... Blame Clinton for distorting them beyond belief... I would prefer a nuclear exchange between Russia and the US to her as the new POTUS... 

It's easy to recommend burning the house down when you don't live there.

What you don't realize is that your house is next door and the rain we had last night was gasoline (petroleum). 



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naruball said:
Scoobes said:

Well, you could always look here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report

USA is 14th.

8 European countries are ahead of the US. 

And your point is what exactly?

Point 4 of your post was about "level of happiness" and you asked for sources. That's a measure of happiness by Country, and it's referenced. 

You did ask...



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Scoobes said:
naruball said:

And your point is what exactly?

Point 4 of your post was about "level of happiness" and you asked for sources. That's a measure of happiness by Country, and it's referenced. 

You did ask...

Yes, and I am asking how exactly are you using that source? In other words, does the fact that the USA is placed 14th on that list mean that living in Texas and Connecticut offer you the same level of happiness? Does that souce confirm that life in every single part of USA is worse than any part of Europe?

Who conducted that research and how reliable are their findings? Would Americans who would say that they are unhappy in the USA be happier in a European country that has a better happiness level?

 

Most importantly:

"several European countries are above USA in every sense that it matters to a citizien, from social servers to level of happiness"

What does the bolded exactly mean and does the source that you provided cover that?



Scoobes said:
naruball said:

The irony is strong with this one. So strong it's not even funny.

1. I'm not suggesting, I'm outright saying that in several European countries life is much worse than in America. Have you lived in Greece? Albania? Serbia? Bulgaria? Cyprus? 

2. Read what I wrote again instead of what you imagined I did. "several European countries". Not all.

3. That's vague as hell. Wanna be more specific? How are LGBT rights? How is the job market? I'm gonna let you on a little secret: what matters to you may not matter to another citizen.

4. Not sure what social servers are, but wanna back up that claim about "level of happiness"? A couple of sources will do.

5. Define ever. So, was America a few centuries ago without modern medicine and human rights better? Was it better when there were slaves and black and gay people were getting murdered while most people didn't give a damn? (same with the rest of the world and basic human rights). Le'ts be real.

6. I'm gonna inform all my American friends who are not rich that they are mistaken about being happy. Apparently, they aren't. How anyone can be this misinformed is beyond me.

Well, you could always look here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report

USA is 14th.

8 European countries are ahead of the US. 

14th out of 157. That's quite good. Clearly far from being as lamentable as some people in this thread would want us to believe.



If the lefties do not try any fool play, Trump will win.



My grammar errors are justified by the fact that I am a brazilian living in Brazil. I am also very stupid.

WagnerPaiva said:
If the lefties do not try any fool play, Trump will win.

 

 

Hilliary is much closer to it than Trump is, winning it that is.

Its not quite unrealistic that he can win, but its close to that.



naruball said:
Scoobes said:

Point 4 of your post was about "level of happiness" and you asked for sources. That's a measure of happiness by Country, and it's referenced. 

You did ask...

Yes, and I am asking how exactly are you using that source? In other words, does the fact that the USA is placed 14th on that list mean that living in Texas and Connecticut offer you the same level of happiness? Does that souce confirm that life in every single part of USA is worse than any part of Europe?

Who conducted that research and how reliable are their findings? Would Americans who would say that they are unhappy in the USA be happier in a European country that has a better happiness level?

 

Most importantly:

"several European countries are above USA in every sense that it matters to a citizien, from social servers to level of happiness"

What does the bolded exactly mean and does the source that you provided cover that?

It has graphs and rankings for GDP per capita, social support, health life expectancy, freedom to make life choices, generosity and trust (in politicians) which is the most comprehensive list of happiness measurement in a specific Country that I know of. 

The data is taken via Gallup's World poll and is used by the UN. Unless you know of an alternative or better methodology, this is the best way of determining the happiness level of the average citizen in one Country versus another. 

It's all in the link, and as I said, it's referenced so you could have just had a quick read.