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Wyrdness said:
Man the debate is making politicians in the UK look some what sane and competent and that is a spectacular achievement to pull off.

Hardly news. Politicians in the UK are sort of decent. American politicians are a bunch of mindless soldiers... I am now hoping the deadlock in my post above does happen and Gary wins... Then I will laugh at both's faces... 

Also, JK Rowling dissing Trump and praising Hillary on Twitter... I think my respect for the woman just plummeted to new lows (don't worry, I already had non existent respect for Lily Allen when I saw her "fuck leave" Tweets)... 



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Bandorr said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Sadly even if all that was true, I'd still vote for Drumpf. For me its more about the economy and the direction of the country more than the chracter of the candidates.

Hilary = more Obama, and that's a direction many of us do not want. Its inevitably gonna be a mess as I predicted with Obama.

That may be the most horrifying, disgusting, and frightening thing I have ever read.  Steven king has nothing on that.

So even if donald trump raped a 13 year old,  sexually assaulted numerous women, and harassed countless others - you'd actually vote for someone?

Its a reflection of how little faith I have in the left wing party. Again, I believe we vote for parties and not candidates. If we had Hilary in 2008 the end was result would have likely been similar to what we have now.

Frankly, if Trump really did all that stuff... I don't think he would even be running. So its not really worth discussing. I'm just stressing how opposed I am to the dems at the moment.



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Seems this guy is our only hope now...



If Trump can stave off the sinking of his ship long enough, we might be able to get this...



I just hope if polls drop low, Trump realizes he has to change strategy from "win the house" to "terminate Clinton" or "drag Clinton down with me"...

Fivethirtyeight.com (the site that created that map) shows Johnson as having less than a 1% chance of winning New Mexico. Plus Nevada, Florida, North Caronila, and Ohio have all started to fall farther into Clintons end.

Honestly, unless something HUGE happens in the next 4 weeks...I think the conversation starts to be less about who wins and more about what the margin is going to look like.



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I think Clinton killed the second debate. I wish Trump would just quit dodging questions and show some actual policy plans and how he plans on paying for them.



Mr Puggsly said:
Bandorr said:

That may be the most horrifying, disgusting, and frightening thing I have ever read.  Steven king has nothing on that.

So even if donald trump raped a 13 year old,  sexually assaulted numerous women, and harassed countless others - you'd actually vote for someone?

Its a reflection of how little faith I have in the left wing party. Again, I believe we vote for parties and not candidates. If we had Hilary in 2008 the end was result would have likely been similar to what we have now.

Frankly, if Trump really did all that stuff... I don't think he would even be running. So its not really worth discussing. I'm just stressing how opposed I am to the dems at the moment.

So what's the line of thinking there?

"Hey, he may have repeatedly raped a 13 year old girl and threatened to have her family killed. But at least he sees Assad as a partner in the fight against ISIS"?

Or.

"Well, He may have said that black people are inherently lazy. But at least he's against the 14 ammendment and has serious issues with freedom of the press"?

As nightmarish as his personal life is, his political ideals are scarier.



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Normchacho said:

As nightmarish as his personal life is, his political ideals are scarier.

I find the policies of the left "scarier" and that's that my primary concern. Their ideas simply don't work and more Obama via Hilary is gonna be bad.

I get it, your primary concern is Trump's character. You think he's gonna make raping women legal or something, that's clearly his MO.

I'm giving my vote to who ever isn't more Obama and that means it has to be Trump. If it makes you feel better though, I don't expect Trump to actually win.



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Mr Puggsly said:
Normchacho said:

As nightmarish as his personal life is, his political ideals are scarier.

I find the policies of the left "scarier" and that's that my primary concern. Their ideas simply don't work and more Obama via Hilary is gonna be bad.

I get it, your primary concern is Trump's character. You think he's gonna make raping women legal or something, that's clearly his MO.

I'm giving my vote to who ever isn't more Obama and that means it has to be Trump. If it makes you feel better though, I don't expect Trump to actually win.

I don't know. Was Obama really that bad? In 2008, the economy was near collapse, banks going down, housing crisis. Hell I was laid off and there were tons more who also lost their jobs. Now unemployment is down, the economy is loads better, and health care is available for everyone.

I know people want to say that Obama was terrible and things are bad, but I see the results all around me all the time. People working, people earning money and people living better than they were 8 years ago.



Mr Puggsly said:
Normchacho said:

As nightmarish as his personal life is, his political ideals are scarier.

I find the policies of the left "scarier" and that's that my primary concern. Their ideas simply don't work and more Obama via Hilary is gonna be bad.

I get it, your primary concern is Trump's character. You think he's gonna make raping women legal or something, that's clearly his MO.

I'm giving my vote to who ever isn't more Obama and that means it has to be Trump. If it makes you feel better though, I don't expect Trump to actually win.

The part you bolded specifically points out that the part I bolded isn't true.

Edit: But yes, I don't actually expect him to win either.



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bunchanumbers said:
Mr Puggsly said:

I find the policies of the left "scarier" and that's that my primary concern. Their ideas simply don't work and more Obama via Hilary is gonna be bad.

I get it, your primary concern is Trump's character. You think he's gonna make raping women legal or something, that's clearly his MO.

I'm giving my vote to who ever isn't more Obama and that means it has to be Trump. If it makes you feel better though, I don't expect Trump to actually win.

I don't know. Was Obama really that bad? In 2008, the economy was near collapse, banks going down, housing crisis. Hell I was laid off and there were tons more who also lost their jobs. Now employment is down, the economy is loads better, and health care is available for everyone.

I know people want to say that Obama was terrible and things are bad, but I see the results all around me all the time. People working, people earning money and people living better than they were 8 years ago.

I don't credit Obama for making things better, it was inevitable regardless who was in office. The employment numbers are BS because they generally exclude people that given up on working.

Health care isn't availabe to everyone per se. A lot of people have access to it for free (often the poor), meanwhile a lot of working people simply can't afford it and are opting to pay the penalty instead (I think $700 this year). Insurance companies are leaving Obamacare, it has been a complete disaster for much of the country since day one.

One of my biggest personal issues with Obama is he gives the impression he's disappointed with the country opposed to boasting about our contributions to the world. He has also been incredibly devisive to the people in this country and the only movement he seems to attack is the Tea Party because its critical of him. He ran as a fiscal conservitive and even mocked Bush for his handling of the budget but did much worse. He's objectively an awful leader even if you can pick out a few things he did well. I understand people like him perhaps for social issues, but I don't think those people really looking at his record.

In a nutshell, I'll pass on more Obama if given the chance. So I basically have to give my vote to Trump. I don't think Trump is the ideal candidate, its just the left wing option is really bad even when I ignore she's a corrupt politician.



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Because Trump is a sadistic, selfish, racist a-hole who shouldn't lead our country. Hillary is much better, albeit still evil, politician to run the white house, than Trump.