Looks damn shiny even on the lower settings I still think they have done great work in bringing Gears into this generation but retaining that Gritty look of the first games on the X360.

As cool as that is, my question is how does it fair against the x1 versions? There have been a few games from MS that seem to require 970 with very little visual difference than the x1 version apart from the usual resolution even though a 970 is far more powerful.

What I am trying to get at is, if the x1 version looks similar to what a 970 is able to do, its not really pushing PC to its limits from a jaw dropping zomg graphics point of view but rather, shit optimization point of view.

I havent even got to buying a 1070 yet and its already outdated, dafuuuq?!

That looks fantastic even on low! I'm not sure I can pull it off with all PP effects on full with decent fps though (as in 60+).

Neh, shit is usually more impactful :P

And yea, it won't have many of those extra details but my point is, where does a 970 fit in? Is it high at 1080p? Cause as an example, we look at Forza Horizon 3, a 970 really struggles to keep up with 60fps with ultra settings which it more than should be able to:

And of course, the x1 is at high settings and runs at 1080p native + 30fps.

Yea I know its a different etc, but it has been similar for many MS releases onto PC. ReCore and Quantum Break suffer similar issues. 

I hope Gears of War is better though.

I hope you are right otherwise, #Skip for me. I am not saying that UWP is the thing which caused the issue, but rather that they were all published by MS that was the issue.

They get a stamp like that when they start having several releases that fall into the "un-optimized" category. And its not like Gears of War Ultimate didn't have its own set of problems.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-tears-for-gears-why-gears-of-war-ultimate-fails-to-deliver-on-pc

Really, when a publisher releases games where un-opimized games are the norm and optimized games are the exception, I would say they deserve to get that stamp.

It looks nice, so far all the xbox one games have been running good on my PC, cant wait for gears :)

Well, The big games that MS released on PC post Windows 10 are: (I might miss some so correct me if I am wrong)

Killer Instinct - Hit
Gears of War Ultimate - Miss
Forza 6 Apex - Hit but still in Beta
Quantum Break - Miss
ReCore - Miss
Forza Horizon 3 - Miss

I see more misses than hits. Now I don't mean quality of the game or anything, I mean from a purely optimization standpoint compared to X1. I don't expect to get console level optimization but I do expect a 970 to perform more than what they did in those games.

And yes, PC games are a hit or a miss but other companies who have more misses than hits on their big games also get that stamp.