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"Westworld" - HBO science fiction series

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Michael Crichton wrote and directed Westworld.

I recommend watching The Magnificent Seven (1960) and Westworld (1973) in a row for the full and cool Yul Brynner experience.

Funny that both iconic movies with Yul Brynner - in which he basically plays an identical looking character, but once as human shootist with a golden heart and once as robot shootist without a heart - got remade in 2016,

I will watch the new TV show one day.



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The original film, based on the Michael Crichton concept, was excellent. It avoided pretentious, arty farty, faux profundity and concentrated on just telling a very good and disturbing story.

The new series, judging from the first episode, is everything that the film was not. I'll stick with it for now but I am underwhelmed.



MichaelH said:

The original film, based on the Michael Crichton concept, was excellent. It avoided pretentious, arty farty, faux profundity and concentrated on just telling a very good and disturbing story.

The new series, judging from the first episode, is everything that the film was not. I'll stick with it for now but I am underwhelmed.

You gotta expect more depth and complexity form a TV serie that's gonna have douzens of episodes. I think that the movie already has that experience, why not explore the profundity the story is able to have in this new project? Is better than just a remake imo.



JRPGfan said:
LurkerJ said:

Beautiful scenery and direction. I just think the concept has already been done many times before. I will watch the next episode but I can already have a good picture of where it is headed, I dunno, I am neutral. Let's see what they have in store for us.

I have never seen this concept, done like this before.

and I cant really argue for any of it without huge spoilers which I dont wanna do.

Tone down the hype...

The pilot was boring in a sense. I have not watched the movie but I could totally see where things were headed, it was very predictable. That's not bad, it's just a pilot.

The concept is not original, but that doesn't mean the show will be bad. It just means the concept has been dealt with extensively before.



LurkerJ said:
JRPGfan said:

I have never seen this concept, done like this before.

and I cant really argue for any of it without huge spoilers which I dont wanna do.

 

The concept is not original, but that doesn't mean the show will be bad. It just means the concept has been dealt with extensively before.

Is true, but at least the setting is unique for this kind of concept which makes it look fresh even if is not, also is well made and looks like is gonna be addictive, so that balances the lack of originality. I hope.



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LurkerJ said:
JRPGfan said:

I have never seen this concept, done like this before.

and I cant really argue for any of it without huge spoilers which I dont wanna do.

Tone down the hype...

The pilot was boring in a sense. I have not watched the movie but I could totally see where things were headed, it was very predictable. That's not bad, it's just a pilot.

The concept is not original, but that doesn't mean the show will be bad. It just means the concept has been dealt with extensively before.

A giant world, filled with syntheical made humans, that have A.I's smart enough to deviate from a set script.

A lead scientist trying to create real consciousness in machines (he says its just a "bug", purposefully lying to the others), he wants to extende life, so when he dies he can resurrect himself in a machine.
A team that are deadly scared of buggy machines, that are armed to the teeth, ready to fight them.Amoung these A.I some of them have developed real consciousness, and know they are in a fake world playing a part.Some malfunktion after learning this, others have known it and hide it (and appear able to hide/lie to humans, and hurt liveing things (the fly at the end)).A plot around a "gamer" whos a old player thats been playing the game on and off for 30 years, convinced their are clues about a "deeper" level to the game. He scalpes a indian in game, and finds a hidden map under there..

 

I just watched the movie.

It was really bad compaired to the first episode of this series. Its plot was alot less intresting and had less going for it. The concept was the same, but thats about it. TV series appears much much better written (and deeper plots), acted, ect.

TV series > the movie from the 70s by miles and miles.

*edit:

Also

TV series = seen from the robots perspective (mainly).

old movie = seen only from the humans perspective.

Its just much more enjoyable when you get all the nueances, reasonings for why things happend, and how they effect them.

The old movie just has 1 machine that goes around shooting people, and its so damn corny and badly made.



JRPGfan said:
LurkerJ said:

Tone down the hype...

The pilot was boring in a sense. I have not watched the movie but I could totally see where things were headed, it was very predictable. That's not bad, it's just a pilot.

The concept is not original, but that doesn't mean the show will be bad. It just means the concept has been dealt with extensively before.

A giant world, filled with syntheical made humans, that have A.I's smart enough to deviate from a set script.

A lead scientist trying to create real consciousness in machines (he says its just a "bug", purposefully lying to the others), he wants to extende life, so when he dies he can resurrect himself in a machine.
A team that are deadly scared of buggy machines, that are armed to the teeth, ready to fight them.Amoung these A.I some of them have developed real consciousness, and know they are in a fake world playing a part.Some malfunktion after learning this, others have known it and hide it (and appear able to hide/lie to humans, and hurt liveing things (the fly at the end)).A plot around a "gamer" whos a old player thats been playing the game on and off for 30 years, convinced their are clues about a "deeper" level to the game. He scalpes a indian in game, and finds a hidden map under there..

 

I just watched the movie.

It was really bad compaired to the first episode of this series. Its plot was alot less intresting and had less going for it. The concept was the same, but thats about it. TV series appears much much better written (and deeper plots), acted, ect.

TV series > the movie from the 70s by miles and miles.

Excuse me for not reading the highlighted parts because I haven't watched the movie. I also can't comment on your comparison for the same reason.



I liked it, certainly the pilot had me intrigued and curious to see where they take it. I haven't seen the movie or can think of anything similar that I've watched (or at least nothing really comes to mind), so I didn't really have any expectations going in. I'm hopeful for the rest of the season.



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GribbleGrunger said:
AbbathTheGrim said:

Have you seen the movies? If they follow what the movies did then there's not much for speculation.

This is a series. If they don't solve the problem with motivation then eventually people will be asking 'but why not just make new robots or shut the project down.' There has to be another motivation for sustaining the project and I'm plumping for it becoming or being recognised as an important 'social experiment'.

This is a tv series based on films and a previous tv series. They will either follow what happened in previous works or do something different. What you are asking for has answers in those previous works, I won't spoil anything, I hate doing and being done that.



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Great 2nd episode.