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Jranation said:
Didnt foxconn said that they are already producing the NX? Doesn't that mean they cant change anything in terms of hardware?

If the Foxconn rumors are to be believed, they're doing their prototypes now. They haven't started mass production yet.



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bunchanumbers said:
RolStoppable said:

How is that response relevant to NX?

Going from reveal to launch in 4-5 months means there will be no time to fine tune things. Maybe people don't like the controller design. Instead of being able to redesign it they will have to use it at launch. Or lets say theres some sort of Mattrick style response to NX. Fans are in arms about it. Unless its software related, Nintendo won't be able to fix it in that small window.

Responding to fans and such was what lead to the flaw in the Wii U's approach in trying to appeal to the so called core and all, with the Wii they did everything their own way that's one key reason it was handled far better than its successor.

They don't intend to change anything with NX because they recognize they have to fully commit to an approach like they did with the Wii.



I agree that Nintendo would have preferred a closer power gap instead of compeeting with the upgraded versions, but if they are not showing anything is because of software, not hardware. If that were the case, they wouldn't have said a thing about its march release. Plus, the WiiU came out in 2012. If in all this time they haven't solved their hardware problems, they are in real trouble.



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Wyrdness said:
bunchanumbers said:

Going from reveal to launch in 4-5 months means there will be no time to fine tune things. Maybe people don't like the controller design. Instead of being able to redesign it they will have to use it at launch. Or lets say theres some sort of Mattrick style response to NX. Fans are in arms about it. Unless its software related, Nintendo won't be able to fix it in that small window.

Responding to fans and such was what lead to the flaw in the Wii U's approach in trying to appeal to the so called core and all, with the Wii they did everything their own way that's one key reason it was handled far better than its successor.

They don't intend to change anything with NX because they recognize they have to fully commit to an approach like they did with the Wii.

What they changed with Wii U was beneficial though. The analog sticks are much more durable than slide pads. And its not like responding to the fans is a bad thing. It saved the PS3 from launching with the Batarang. It also reversed the Mattrick always on DRM policy for Xbox One. They also made MS back off from the Kinect which was driving up the price of the console.



When was the last time Nintendo had the most powerful console? 20 years ago.
Difference in power is not the reason for the non-reveal.

It's pretty clear - given all the comments from Ubisoft and other devs - that NX is not going to compete with PS4 or XB1. Therefore, price difference really isn't a big deal.

The reason or reasons for not revealing NX has probably got to do with them wanting to not let the hype die. Not to mention that people are already used to short waiting periods between announcement and release date.
It could be that Nintendo wants to not interfere with the holiday period, which normally sees sales increase already in October, if i'm not mistaken (with the actual reveal coming after the holidays).
They still want to sell Wii Us and 3DSs!

What i do fear is that this small gap between reveal and release means that 3rd parties aren't on board again.
What i mean is that i'm having a hard time seeing 3rd parties agreeing to having so little time to promote their games. With all the rush that is coming soon due to the holiday period, they will focus their dollars and time on the games that are indeed coming out soon, not games coming out in 4/5 months (if the reveal was even this month of October).

Can you imagine how NX's launch line-up would be if that happens?




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bunchanumbers said:

What they changed with Wii U was beneficial though. The analog sticks are much more durable than slide pads. And its not like responding to the fans is a bad thing. It saved the PS3 from launching with the Batarang. It also reversed the Mattrick always on DRM policy for Xbox One. They also made MS back off from the Kinect which was driving up the price of the console.

The analogue sticks were always going to happen as feedback was already there from the 3DS and R&D, the PS3 controller was quickly put together because MS forced the 7th gen to happen, the result was Sony had to respond with something otherwise 360 would have an unchallenged headstart, the other things you mentioned aren't even hardware revisions either which defeats your whole point.

Wii U itself is a response from fans in their demand to be more catered to instead of the broad approach and it never took off because this was Nintendo following the tune of others and not themselves.

If you look at the Wii they went for a mass affordable platform driven by a concept, when it was shown many didn't like it and no changes were made up to launch, it became successful due to them doing their own thing regardless of what people were saying, NX seems to be going the same route of them being fully commited to it. The only way for Nintendo to be successful is to do things their own way not the way people think they should do things.



No matter what side of the fence you stand on you gotta admit the fact that they haven't revealed it yet means something is wrong. Very wrong considering a March release date.



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I think if Nintendo is looking to launch in March they need to reveal the NX before the holidays pick up. There's just too much going on in November and December for Nintendo to get the kind of coverage they'll need to convince people to buy the NX and there just isn't enough time if they wait till after the holidays.



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more like Nintendo has literally no strong advantage of announcing it 6 months in advance rather than like 4. They're not going to magically stop people from buying other stuff over the holidays for Christmas

its just irrelevant

people will either be excited or they won't. They honestly could annoice the system only a few months early and it would likely make zero difference. In the end what matters is if the system is a hit in terms of innovation and design. Its sort of like a good food, the marketing does the work by itself if consumers like the product enough

Third party developers have been far more positive sounding than they were about the Wii U, especially Ubisoft. 

I think you're mistaking playing it safe with being scared. Nintendo has been saying for months and months that they are concerned if they announce it too early the competition may attempt to copy them



DélioPT said:
When was the last time Nintendo had the most powerful console? 20 years ago.
Difference in power is not the reason for the non-reveal.

It's pretty clear - given all the comments from Ubisoft and other devs - that NX is not going to compete with PS4 or XB1. Therefore, price difference really isn't a big deal.

The reason or reasons for not revealing NX has probably got to do with them wanting to not let the hype die. Not to mention that people are already used to short waiting periods between announcement and release date.
It could be that Nintendo wants to not interfere with the holiday period, which normally sees sales increase already in October, if i'm not mistaken (with the actual reveal coming after the holidays).
They still want to sell Wii Us and 3DSs!

What i do fear is that this small gap between reveal and release means that 3rd parties aren't on board again.
What i mean is that i'm having a hard time seeing 3rd parties agreeing to having so little time to promote their games. With all the rush that is coming soon due to the holiday period, they will focus their dollars and time on the games that are indeed coming out soon, not games coming out in 4/5 months (if the reveal was even this month of October).

Can you imagine how NX's launch line-up would be if that happens?


this. you announce in September and then the holidays come by and everybody asks for a PS4 as a gift and then totally forgets about the NX come next spring. Frankly Nintendo's best move might be to literally wait until right around the holidays to announce the system, keep it fresh in people's mind while they're on vacation and getting holiday money and things

announcing early is useful is you're launching during like the holidays. Announcing early is just not relevant at all if you're launching in March. They can easily spam commercials and ads online for a few months.

Obviously to a lesser extent look at how films are advertised- granted they're only out for a limited period of time, a limited theatrical run, BUT you don't advertise wayyyy in advance. you advertise in a sweet spot in the months leading up to the release

 

I can see if Nintendo has something super innovative, them being concerned that Sony might attempt to hack together a similar-ish thing if there's too much time in between release

just as an example, although this was late by Microsoft, something like the Kinect getting made because of the Wii comes to mind.

if you have a really good idea for something the real value is arguably in protecting the idea and using it at the right time to control market share