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Dunban67 said:

I think you posted on the wrong thread-

but while you are here....

Hillary used the same accounting method Trump did on her personal tax returns-  Anyone who books losses can use them to offset future gains -  It is a very common practice - ask any accountant -  It is perfectly legal -  no one has claimed, even Hillary, that Trump did not pay federal txes that he owed-  just that he did not have to pay them- 

Warren Buffet, one of the richest men in the world has often criticised the tax code by using the example that he pays less taxes than his secratary -  He does this by, among other things, booking losses against future gains- 

So maybe it is good you stopped by the wrong thread- you leanred something valuable

Yes it shows he went bankrupt 4 times and couldn't hold Warren Buffet's jock strap when it comes to investing. Buffet by the way has called on Trump multiple times to release his tax returns and supports Clinton. 

Hilary has her issues, but Trump is the shittiest presidential candidate ... maybe ever. As in ever, ever. 

Mitt Romney should've ran in this election he is a 50x better candidate than Trump and actually sane and intelligent, instead of the clown show the Republican party is now stuck with. 

I beleive that you beleive that-  You may or may not be right-  I just wish people on all sides woulds quit listening to the noise that is put out there to distract from real issues, real information  etc-    Trump has always touted himself but he IS a good businessman-    He has developed alot of class A properties around the US and the world- 

For me, I have seen the Clintons, how they operate, their history etc since Bill Clinton1st started his White House run for pres-  As much as i did not like Bill Clinton, Hillary has always been, IMO (I think the record supports too) the most self serving, power hungry person to be nominated by a major party for President-  She will continue to corrupt the system and sell the white house/the country for her drect and indirect gain-  all while using the politiacal power she gains from groups/organizations that she, in practice often disdains or at best is extremely hypocritical about-   Like this thread-  how do feminists reconcile her ACTIONS  -  V what she says -   She has disdain for virtually anyone (including Obamah)  that is not completely loyal to her and whaty she wants



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Dunban67 said:

alledged rape victems of her husband as well as women he has had sex with (while he was married to Hillary) that go public about it? 

Going back to his 1st campaign for President: Hillary went on the news show 60 Minutes and said she was "no stand by your man kind of gal"  when asked about her husbands affairs-  This made many people mad so she made a big deal about making home made cookies, dressed like a matronly mom/wife supporting her husband   etc  for a while to try to win back the Tammy Wynette fans, among others she upset-

Hillary has a long record of trying to discredit/attack Bill s "Rodeo Queens" , even the women that have accused him of rape-  There is a public record of this and even the Washingto Post article (linked to the article i am linking below) does not try to deny it as much as "recast" her actions in a better light  (The Washington Post article is "Enabler or Family Defender"). 

Conidering the support  of super sensitive feminists, sjw s etc is heavily pro Hillary, how do they reconcile her actions like "slut shaming", attacking, intimting,  discrediting of these women/potential victims? -   The type of behavior that Hillary is known for towards these women,  is the  epitome of the type of beavior  that  is considered wrong by not only feminists but most people in general. 

http://www.weeklystandard.com/hillary-and-the-rodeo-queens/article/2004640

Totally different it was women involved with her husband, by all means attack, attack, attack and (attack Bill to as I'm sure she did in private). Trump was not married or dating most of these women thats how it's diffrent. BTW SJW's really suck.



Dunban67 said:

alledged rape victems of her husband as well as women he has had sex with (while he was married to Hillary) that go public about it? 

Going back to his 1st campaign for President: Hillary went on the news show 60 Minutes and said she was "no stand by your man kind of gal"  when asked about her husbands affairs-  This made many people mad so she made a big deal about making home made cookies, dressed like a matronly mom/wife supporting her husband   etc  for a while to try to win back the Tammy Wynette fans, among others she upset-

Hillary has a long record of trying to discredit/attack Bill s "Rodeo Queens" , even the women that have accused him of rape-  There is a public record of this and even the Washingto Post article (linked to the article i am linking below) does not try to deny it as much as "recast" her actions in a better light  (The Washington Post article is "Enabler or Family Defender"). 

Conidering the support  of super sensitive feminists, sjw s etc is heavily pro Hillary, how do they reconcile her actions like "slut shaming", attacking, intimting,  discrediting of these women/potential victims? -   The type of behavior that Hillary is known for towards these women,  is the  epitome of the type of beavior  that  is considered wrong by not only feminists but most people in general. 

http://www.weeklystandard.com/hillary-and-the-rodeo-queens/article/2004640

I imagine they simply look at the Republican candidate and recognize him to be even worse---considering that Trump is personally alledged to have raped a 13 year old girl, was personally accused of various cases of sexual harassment, and actively tries to ruin the lives/reputations of everyone who came forward with these claims.  Trump has a long and well-known history of sexism and misogyny--possibly to a criminal extreme.

The fact is, if you judge both candidates objectively and by the same standards, Trump comes across far, far worse than Hillary--especially to feminists.



Clinton has a long history of bad acts behind her.  Trump is worse.  This applies to attacks on women as well as generally. That is how feminists vote for Clinton.



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sounds like the answer is mostly denial/minimizing with a bit of Faustian bargaining



Dunban67 said:
sounds like the answer is mostly denial/minimizing with a bit of Faustian bargaining

"choosing the lesser evil" isn't a Faustian bargain. 



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Dunban67 said:
sounds like the answer is mostly denial/minimizing with a bit of Faustian bargaining

Which one still actively imtimidates and berates women every day?



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I assume feminists would be highly critical of people who make false accusations of rape. Given no one has managed to prove rape beyond a reasonable doubt the presumption of innocence applies to Bill, in terms of rape. Therefore Hillary has every right to go after Bill's false accusers.

If you think Hillary knows Bill is an actual rapist and she's still going after these legit victims then yeah that's bad. But that's all in your mind, because you don't know the truth, you just want it to be the truth so much you've decided it is the truth.

Having an affair is not illegal. And also there is nothing at all wrong or unusual for the scorned wife to have a lot of anger towards the other woman. "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned." People have heard of that saying right? If the other woman comes out publicly then I see no problem with going after them as long as you don't break any laws in what you do (like paying to get them kneecapped or something). Coming out publicly only serves to give the other woman (or man as the case may be) 15 minutes of fame and serves as fodder to political opponents. If they were willing participants in the affairs at the time then I have no problem with Hillary hounding them for going public.

Clearly Hillary was not going to publicly castigate Bill for his part in it, but I bet behind closed doors some harsh words were spoken, and Bill probably spent a lot of time on the couch.

I do know some feminists who think Hillary played the whole thing wrong and they wish she wasn't in line to be the first woman president. But they certainly think she's a miles better option than ole misogynist Drumpf. And not in a lesser of two evils way, in an actual materially better person, better candidate and better ideology way.



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SpokenTruth said:
Dunban67 said:
sounds like the answer is mostly denial/minimizing with a bit of Faustian bargaining

Which one still actively imtimidates and berates women every day?

Hillary with out a doubt- she will intimdate threaten discredit ect any woman that has slept w her husband that she see s as a threat just as she always has-  She has done exactly what feminist have said for years (even peole who are not feminists) have fought against for year and that is blaming the victim, slut shaming, discrediting ect-  

The question in the thread is "how do feminists supporters of Hillary reconcile her well documented actions V what she says she stands for and what many of her supporters consider a major issue-     So far most of the answers have been something about Trump or lesser of 2 evils kind of thing and/or some type of Faustian bargain-  but none of the answers make an effort to reconcile her actions V what she says she stands for -  I think the reason is, it would be difficult if not impossible to do-