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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - Why do we insist that NX has to be another PS or XB, or else it'll fail?

 

Does NX need to be on par with PS4 and XBone to succeed?

Yes 96 30.77%
 
No 118 37.82%
 
Yes, but... 33 10.58%
 
No, but... 65 20.83%
 
Total:312
Miyamotoo said:
TomaTito said:

And they will most likely wait to reveal the NX after Super Mario Run, showing off then the new Mario NX game. So 2017 ppl.

Super Mario Run is coming in December, NX reveal will most likely be in October.

October? Based on what? I would say the month Post-Christmas is the likely time. Late December to late January.



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bunchanumbers said:
JRPGfan said:

Has anyone see this pic yet?

Probably fake... or just a early proto type.

Stupid question but why is the link on the screen running if he isn't moving the dpad or the slide pad?

It's probably because it's just a video clip of Breath of the Wild and that the guy holding on to the alleged controller isn't actually playing the game.



It's because if it is considerably weaker, it won't get ports of 3rd party games. If it is at least OG XB1 level, it will be good to go, no issues.

Anyway, Nintendo didn't seem able to get full 3rd party support anymore. The relationship between both sides seems to broken and I also think that the gamers that indeed wanted 3rd party support already moved to other platforms years ago. So I see NX more as a console made by Nintendo to run Nintendo games. I think they will create a cheap console focused on their own software, so gamers that already have a PS4 or X1 will feel compelled to buy it because it's simply pretty cheap, portable and has Nintendo games. Making an expensive and powerful console means that people will probably not have money to buy it and keep a PS4/X1 and it's a but insane to try to go attacking platforms that already have 3 years of games and install base.



bunchanumbers said:
JRPGfan said:

Has anyone see this pic yet?

Probably fake... or just a early proto type.

Stupid question but why is the link on the screen running if he isn't moving the dpad or the slide pad?

There is auto-run in the new zelda.

Its rather intelligent too, they show cased him on a horse useing this features (no hands on controller) and it just ran, by it self, and was smart to avoid tree's and things.

 

Also the source is from twitter (saw it on neogaf). "nx is good" as the headline for the picture.



JRPGfan said:
bunchanumbers said:

Stupid question but why is the link on the screen running if he isn't moving the dpad or the slide pad?

There is auto-run in the new zelda.

Its rather intelligent too, they show cased him on a horse useing this features (no hands on controller) and it just ran, by it self, and was smart to avoid tree's and things.

 

Also the source is from twitter (saw it on neogaf). "nx is good" as the headline for the picture.

Only on the horse.



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torok said:
Making an expensive and powerful console means that people will probably not have money to buy it and keep a PS4/X1 and it's a but insane to try to go attacking platforms that already have 3 years of games and install base.

Then Nintendo would never have an opening to "attack". If they keep playing it safe. Both ways are equally poor.



torok said:
It's because if it is considerably weaker, it won't get ports of 3rd party games. If it is at least OG XB1 level, it will be good to go, no issues.

Anyway, Nintendo didn't seem able to get full 3rd party support anymore. The relationship between both sides seems to broken and I also think that the gamers that indeed wanted 3rd party support already moved to other platforms years ago. So I see NX more as a console made by Nintendo to run Nintendo games. I think they will create a cheap console focused on their own software, so gamers that already have a PS4 or X1 will feel compelled to buy it because it's simply pretty cheap, portable and has Nintendo games. Making an expensive and powerful console means that people will probably not have money to buy it and keep a PS4/X1 and it's a but insane to try to go attacking platforms that already have 3 years of games and install base.

I think that's a valid option. Not the only one, but maybe the safest one of the two ways I see for Nintendo:

1- A new SNES: say what you want, but most of true gamers dream about a console that sums Nintendo IPs and equal or more power than the competition. Not just for the power, but for what you can do with it. SNES had STRONG third party support and incredible first party games. If it's marketed in the right way, it could cust as much as the competition and still sell, at least, better than the X1. It would need strong third party support, a strong online network, variety of first party titles (not just Mario and Zelda, it would need good new IPs and new games from series like Metroid and F-Zero in the way that the fans want it, not Star Fox Zero way) and a tradicional controller. If it's made the right way, it would kick Microsoft out of the way and Nintendo would battle Sony head-to-head in a future next generation.

2- A new Wii: what makes Wii so brilliant was the sum of innovative ways to play, good price and exclusive games. You couldn't had the same experience in any other console in that generation (at least, before Kinect and PSMove) and that made the Wii steal the show. The trick part is: it has to be unique and cheap. The rumours point to that way. And it could work, with a good amount of great games and a price that convince X1 and PS4 owners to have a second console and, more than that, convince people that don't like games that much (casuals, for saying) that it a good valour for tons of fun. More than keep Nintendo alive, it could be responsible for keep the idea of dedicated devices for playing alive in this world of consoles that are becoming more and more like a PC.

It all just depends on what Nintendo consider was the worst mistake with the Wii U. If it was power, online and third party support (like much of the gamers think), go the first way. If it was high cost and lack of enough first party support (like Nintendo fans usually think), go the second way.

 

I'm a Nintendo fan since I was born and have all consoles from NES to Wii, from GBC to 3DS. Wii U never convinced me and when you live in a country that a console cust twice a minimum wage, it's not possible to afford a console that isn't good enough. I chose a X1 and I'm pretty happy with it. Excellent online service, good exclusives and the majority of third party games. The first option is my dream, the second one is what I think Nintendo will do.



JRPGfan said:

Has anyone see this pic yet?

Probably fake... or just a early proto type.

If it's fake it's certainly one of the more realized mock ups, it's got the dock, screen and detachable controller like int the rumours but also matches an unusual patent Nintendo had for a U shaped device.

Some speculation but although the shoulder buttons can't be seen the finger placement if Nintendo is utilizing all or some of their patents suggest the scroll wheel buttons may be in use.



Wyrdness said:
JRPGfan said:

Has anyone see this pic yet?

Probably fake... or just a early proto type.

If it's fake it's certainly one of the more realized mock ups, it's got the dock, screen and detachable controller like int the rumours but also matches an unusual patent Nintendo had for a U shaped device.

Some speculation but although the shoulder buttons can't be seen the finger placement if Nintendo is utilizing all or some of their patents suggest the scroll wheel buttons may be in use.

 

The reason for that U shape is now apparent too.

Its a handle for the tablet when its in there.

 

You get a easy to slide on cover, and you can walk around with your tablet, like it was a brief case.



It's weird that people are so quick to believe rumors but they want to compare NX to WiiU, when the best official info we have of the device is from Ubisoft. To which they state that the NX offers something very different from Microsoft and Sony, which the WiiU did not!

This should immediately keep people from comparing the NX to WiiU...
If you guys can't muster up the creativity to think how something outside of the PS4 or XbOne can be successful, that's not Nintendo's fault!