Oh please. Like apologists make crime rates soar, that sociologically ignorant. Crime rates soar with inequality, poverty and discrimination. I'm not excusing their crimes to be very clear, I just think the woman acted in a way that needlessly endangered all parties. If you really think criminals should get what's coming to them, I would take a shotgun and go on a banking CEO hunting tour, but rich criminals can get away with nearly everything, or am I mistaken?

Agreed.  A single life is of profound value.  Even the least of us makes the whole more; giving up on that, justifying the death of even a criminal, means giving up a piece of our own humanity.  

"...never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee."

Mate, you're clearly someone to whom crime has never been a problem. Probably grew up in a first world country. Crime is roaring due to crime apologists - the ones who refuse to punish criminals. These are facts.

So if that's the case, exactly how low is your bar for the death penalty?  All this guy is saying is that he doesn't think people should be killed for stealing or attempting to steal.  Are you instead advocating the death penalty for burglary?

I don't see "you shouldn't kill every criminal" as "refusing to punish them"

I'm not saying every criminal should be killed. I'm saying those who are willing to enter someone else's home with a gun, yeah, I have no problem with them being killed. I mean, did the woman have to be killed for them to get the death penalty?

Yes, the crime has to actually happen before you can dole out the penalty.  I understand that she was protecting herself, and they came in with guns as well, so I'm not going to admonish someone for shooting at home invaders with guns.  That said, I'm not going to congratulate her and wish she'd killed more of them either.  

You can say that they would have killed her if she didn't have the gun, but you can't prove it, and since the entire point of the justice system is innocent until proven guilty you can only prove that several guys went into a house with guns.  Do we have any reason to think that they were there to do more than rob the place?  If so I'll listen to that evidence, but people should not get the death penalty for burglary.  

These are not facts, these are your feelings, and they are very naïve.

No, those are facts - crime is rising in Australia:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/youth-crime-in-melbourne-children-caught-cautioned-not-arrested-more-than-3000-times-in-a-year/news-story/7f275f738c018caa339a8fe23b9ffe5f

Some have committed 10 offenses and still get let off with cautions.

So teen crime is apologists fault now? Unless they're aboriginals of course, then they immediatly get detention?

You are wrong.  Sure soft sentences might make a criminal keep committing crimes but the reason why they started committing crime isn't usually because of soft laws.