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Acevil said:
StarOcean said:

Incentives could easily be made. Like better pay and such. Thats not too hard. However I feel like the problem is Google or another big company like Facebook would buy it and have it go to shit too

However, the only method of better pay, is getting advertisors on board, and the only way you get a lot of those advertisors on board is generally by that Content ID system. 

I'm not sayin' it'd be an easy process XD yeah I know. Perhaps an agreement could be made, at least temporarily while it's still a young site. But yeah, a Youtube competitor is a ways away



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StarOcean said:
FloatingWaffles said:

There definitely are rival sites out there, but those sites will only ever stand a chance if all big youtubers one day made a pact and decided to leave Youtube and move over there such as PewDiePie and such. 

Incentives could easily be made. Like better pay and such. Thats not too hard. However I feel like the problem is Google or another big company like Facebook would buy it and have it go to shit too

That is true. I just feel like it would only ever have a chance at being successful if almost all the big Youtubers were to do it. Like it would need to be a almost completely unanimous thing to work in my opinion from almost all the big Youtubers for it to have any effect of moving people to a different site to watch those channels. 

I love Youtube, i've had a channel on it since 2008, but they are just making really dumb decisions as of late to the point where I wouldn't be surprised if something like this were to happen in the next few years if they keep going at this rate. 



FloatingWaffles said:
StarOcean said:

Incentives could easily be made. Like better pay and such. Thats not too hard. However I feel like the problem is Google or another big company like Facebook would buy it and have it go to shit too

That is true. I just feel like it would only ever have a chance at being successful if almost all the big Youtubers were to do it. Like it would need to be a almost completely unanimous thing to work in my opinion from almost all the big Youtubers for it to have any effect of moving people to a different site to watch those channels. 

I love Youtube, i've had a channel on it since 2008, but they are just making really dumb decisions as of late to the point where I wouldn't be surprised if something like this were to happen if they keep going at this rate. 

Youtube, Facebook, and Twitter. These are super sites that I dont see going away anytime soon, unfortunately. 



StarOcean said:
Acevil said:

However, the only method of better pay, is getting advertisors on board, and the only way you get a lot of those advertisors on board is generally by that Content ID system. 

I'm not sayin' it'd be an easy process XD yeah I know. Perhaps an agreement could be made, at least temporarily while it's still a young site. But yeah, a Youtube competitor is a ways away

Patreon is a good form of alternate revenue streams, if Patreon launched a video hosting service, I can truthfully see it becoming competitor to youtube. However as is, Youtube will destroy anything in sight because you also have google adsense, one of the biggest form of adrevenue for a reason. 



 

Acevil said:
StarOcean said:

I'm not sayin' it'd be an easy process XD yeah I know. Perhaps an agreement could be made, at least temporarily while it's still a young site. But yeah, a Youtube competitor is a ways away

Patreon is a good form of alternate revenue streams, if Patreon launched a video hosting service, I can truthfully see it becoming competitor to youtube. However as is, Youtube will destroy anything in sight because you also have google adsense, one of the biggest form of adrevenue for a reason. 

Google could also play dirty with a Youtube competitor. For all we know an amazing competitor exists but Google is hiding it to an oblivion behind 30 pages of search results



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StarOcean said:
FloatingWaffles said:

That is true. I just feel like it would only ever have a chance at being successful if almost all the big Youtubers were to do it. Like it would need to be a almost completely unanimous thing to work in my opinion from almost all the big Youtubers for it to have any effect of moving people to a different site to watch those channels. 

I love Youtube, i've had a channel on it since 2008, but they are just making really dumb decisions as of late to the point where I wouldn't be surprised if something like this were to happen if they keep going at this rate. 

Youtube, Facebook, and Twitter. These are super sites that I dont see going away anytime soon, unfortunately. 

Yeah, I don't see any of those going away ever for a long time either, maybe even never unless something drastic were to happen that somehow made Google unable to run those sites, but even then if that were to happen someone else would most likely just buy the sites and run it themselves. I personally don't have a problem with any of those sites, except with what Youtube has been doing lately, but it does show the problem of what can happen when a company has such a monopoly in any sort of thing. They start doing shitty things just because they can get away with it and because they know there isn't really a competitive enough alternative currently out there, so people don't have much option of where else to go and they have nothing to worry about. 



FloatingWaffles said:
StarOcean said:

Youtube, Facebook, and Twitter. These are super sites that I dont see going away anytime soon, unfortunately. 

Yeah, I don't see any of those going away ever for a long time either, maybe even never unless something drastic were to happen that somehow made Google unable to run those sites, but even then fi that were to happen someone would most likely just buy the sites and run it themselves. I personally don't have a problem with any of those sites, except with what Youtube has been doing lately, but it does show the problem of what can happen when a company has such a monopoly in any sort of thing. They start doing shitty things just because they can get away with it and because they know there isn't really a competitive enough alternative currently out there, so people don't have much option of where else to go and they have nothing to worry about. 

I dont mind them either. But I dont think a monopoly on certain site types is healthy at all. Like you were saying



StarOcean said:
Youtube has been a forced dictatorship since they were bought by Google. They don't give a shit about what people think because no ones going to do anything about it. No one has a competing site that comes close to Youtube. It wouldnt be hard to make. Buuuut until that rival site is made, YT will become worse and worse as they know they can get away with anything

Hoping Apple launches an alternative!



The main issue is the strangle hold YouTube has on access to so much video content. Unlike a message board such as VGC that appeals to a niche and has thousands of competitors YouTube operates largely unopposed. The idea of having virtual witch hunts with channels having to prove their innocence is detrimental to the site and society in general. Part of living in the marketplace of ideas is managing ideas you find disagreeable. With such broad terminology this ability to mass flag could be easily abused by those in power.



Could be fuss over nothing.