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sethnintendo said:
method114 said:

I haven't looked much into the EPA so I'll have to look into that further.

The FDA don't even get me started on how worthless they have become. Your worried about the stuff in our food once the FDA is gone? You should be worried now. The stuff the FDA is allowing in our foods is stuff that is completely illegal in Europe. The FDA as far as people are concerened is being run by big pharma. I'm not saying I want to get rid of the FDA compeltely because it's a good idea to have something like this. The problem is Big Pharma has used their money to take control of it and it's not doing it's job properly. Maybe the threat of being disbanded will actually get them to do their job and not whatever Big Pharma ask them to do. 

I think the main problem is the revolving door.  You are a CEO or near top position, lobbyist, etc at some pharmaceutical company and then you go work for the FDA, and then you go back to well reserved job in industry (this might repeat a few times).  Happens with the Food industry also.  Same could be said when Bush pushed his pro coal lobbyist into the head of the EPA.  I don't like the revolving door.  You have people from industry that want to maximize profits while trying to get rid of all safeguards.  These are the people that are supposedly looking out for your best interest when really they are just looking out for their own.

I know the FDA is a joke now because they have been gutted for far too long.  They have like 1 person that is supposed to oversee numerous companies if not entire industries.  It just isn't possible.  I believe George W Bush was pretty heavy handed on neutering the FDA.  I know a little about the food industry through horror novels such as Fast Food Nation.  Sometimes it is best not to think about it but considering everyone needs food to survive it should be one of the top government agencies but usually it just gets ignored.

Like the Hillary Clinton, DNC revolving door.

You know how 2008 Hillary Clinton's advisor is now the head of the DNC. And the former head of the DNC is now her vice president running mate.

Really makes a Bernie Sanders supporter have faith in that system.

That's why people want to vote for Trump. It's a chink in the millions of revolving doors in politics. Is it a good chink? Can't say, but it is a chink. 



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irstupid said:
sethnintendo said:

I think the main problem is the revolving door.  You are a CEO or near top position, lobbyist, etc at some pharmaceutical company and then you go work for the FDA, and then you go back to well reserved job in industry (this might repeat a few times).  Happens with the Food industry also.  Same could be said when Bush pushed his pro coal lobbyist into the head of the EPA.  I don't like the revolving door.  You have people from industry that want to maximize profits while trying to get rid of all safeguards.  These are the people that are supposedly looking out for your best interest when really they are just looking out for their own.

I know the FDA is a joke now because they have been gutted for far too long.  They have like 1 person that is supposed to oversee numerous companies if not entire industries.  It just isn't possible.  I believe George W Bush was pretty heavy handed on neutering the FDA.  I know a little about the food industry through horror novels such as Fast Food Nation.  Sometimes it is best not to think about it but considering everyone needs food to survive it should be one of the top government agencies but usually it just gets ignored.

Like the Hillary Clinton, DNC revolving door.

You know how 2008 Hillary Clinton's advisor is now the head of the DNC. And the former head of the DNC is now her vice president running mate.

Really makes a Bernie Sanders supporter have faith in that system.

That's why people want to vote for Trump. It's a chink in the millions of revolving doors in politics. Is it a good chink? Can't say, but it is a chink. 

Yes the revolving door thing is never ending in that world. There should already be laws stopping things like that from happening but of course no politician is going to take up that fight. 

Look I know Trump isn't the best guy for this job. It's literally the only way I can think of to stick it to "the man" and try and do something different. Is it the right way? I don't know. Will it do or change anything? I have no idea. The issue is I have no idea how to do anything about any of this. If anyone has any ideas I'd love to hear them. What I do know is voting for HIllary will guarantee that things just keep operating as is and I can't accept that.



method114 said:
irstupid said:

Like the Hillary Clinton, DNC revolving door.

You know how 2008 Hillary Clinton's advisor is now the head of the DNC. And the former head of the DNC is now her vice president running mate.

Really makes a Bernie Sanders supporter have faith in that system.

That's why people want to vote for Trump. It's a chink in the millions of revolving doors in politics. Is it a good chink? Can't say, but it is a chink. 

Yes the revolving door thing is never ending in that world. There should already be laws stopping things like that from happening but of course no politician is going to take up that fight. 

Look I know Trump isn't the best guy for this job. It's literally the only way I can think of to stick it to "the man" and try and do something different. Is it the right way? I don't know. Will it do or change anything? I have no idea. The issue is I have no idea how to do anything about any of this. If anyone has any ideas I'd love to hear them. What I do know is voting for HIllary will guarantee that things just keep operating as is and I can't accept that.

The only way you can truly "stick it to the man" would be to leave the Country and pay your taxes elsewhere. 

Maybe you'll love it, maybe you'll hate it, but you'll at least not have to pay into their shit (just someone else's!).



Madword said:
the_dark_lewd said:

Please point me to the rhetoric that suggests Trump wants nuclear war with everyone else.

Does it really matter if he suggests using it on one or many countries?, nuclear weapons are an abomination, making stupid threats about using it even on a single country is pretty stupid ... we can sit here with semantics but no one can defend his stupdity or rhetoric over the last 12 months. 

Ok so he hasn't said that then?

What's the rhetoric that suggests he wants nuclear war with ANYONE then? Or is this all completely rectum derived?



the_dark_lewd said:
Madword said:

Does it really matter if he suggests using it on one or many countries?, nuclear weapons are an abomination, making stupid threats about using it even on a single country is pretty stupid ... we can sit here with semantics but no one can defend his stupdity or rhetoric over the last 12 months. 

Ok so he hasn't said that then?

What's the rhetoric that suggests he wants nuclear war with ANYONE then? Or is this all completely rectum derived?

He's stated he wouldnt take the option off the table (no politician would say they would - so thats fine) but would be prepared to use it if need be on parts of Europe...., I dont know about you, and I know some americans think Europe is a single country, but Europe is multiple. So ergo, the previous poster wasnt incorrect. Then later on stated he was being sarcastic. The guy is a fool, and no one who talks like that should ever be in office, because he's one of those people who cannot do deplomacy. I mean who "jokes/sarcastic" about using nukes... I mean seriously, one of the worst weapons ever used/created and he's joking/being sarcastic about using them... man sorry but you can try and create an argument, but there is no defense to what he has been saying.

What he has said about nukes, women, what he has said about pregnant people, mexicans, and a whole lot more. Not forgetting how he fails to pay contractors and basically runs them into the ground, and basically uses his cash to ensure he never pays what they contractly agrees, and saying Obama was not american and having no proof, and well where are his tax returns... As i said I'm not even american and I've come across this information.

If thats not enough for you, then not much point in me discussing it with you. We have the same issue in the UK with people who are following Corbyn... the guy says stupid things. There may be reasonable points in their somewhere if you take away what they have said, but if they cannot even speak properly, no way should they run a country.



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If that's enough to convince you not to go with the Oculus, fine. Just be aware that there's supporters of Politicans you don't approve of behind just about every service and product that you pay for any given day... it's simply a numbers game.

Besides, I'm pretty sure if a Bernie Supporter posted the first half of that post the same people who are now crying about it would have been forwarding it and liking it. I don't know what he sees in Trump, of course, but that's his prerogative.

This almost makes me want to get an Oculus just to irritate those Sensitive Susans out there lol



Johnw1104 said:
If that's enough to convince you not to go with the Oculus, fine. Just be aware that there's supporters of Politicans you don't approve of behind just about every service and product that you pay for any given day... it's simply a numbers game.

Besides, I'm pretty sure if a Bernie Supporter posted the first half of that post the same people who are now crying about it would have been forwarding it and liking it. I don't know what he sees in Trump, of course, but that's his prerogative.

This almost makes me want to get an Oculus just to irritate those Sensitive Susans out there lol

There is a post in here that says that this whole story is fiction.

So I'd wait on purchasing or not purchasing something on whether the story is true or not first. An Oculus rift is not cheap, best do some research on this story first before you buy something out of spite. 



irstupid said:
Johnw1104 said:
If that's enough to convince you not to go with the Oculus, fine. Just be aware that there's supporters of Politicans you don't approve of behind just about every service and product that you pay for any given day... it's simply a numbers game.

Besides, I'm pretty sure if a Bernie Supporter posted the first half of that post the same people who are now crying about it would have been forwarding it and liking it. I don't know what he sees in Trump, of course, but that's his prerogative.

This almost makes me want to get an Oculus just to irritate those Sensitive Susans out there lol

There is a post in here that says that this whole story is fiction.

So I'd wait on purchasing or not purchasing something on whether the story is true or not first. An Oculus rift is not cheap, best do some research on this story first before you buy something out of spite. 

lol I wouldn't actually purchase it; I already have the Vive... if you're gonna spend $600 you might as well spend $800 and actually get the controllers and room scale :p

This was the first time I've seen that long post that definitely looked like it could be fake, but they've been talking about this for days now on rather reputable publications. The things I read last night suggested he was either just a casual Trump supporter or anti-Hillary.



Johnw1104 said:
irstupid said:

There is a post in here that says that this whole story is fiction.

So I'd wait on purchasing or not purchasing something on whether the story is true or not first. An Oculus rift is not cheap, best do some research on this story first before you buy something out of spite. 

lol I wouldn't actually purchase it; I already have the Vive... if you're gonna spend $600 you might as well spend $800 and actually get the controllers and room scale :p

This was the first time I've seen that long post that definitely looked like it could be fake, but they've been talking about this for days now on rather reputable publications. The things I read last night suggested he was either just a casual Trump supporter or anti-Hillary.

Yea but that's the media these days. They jump on stories super quickly that fit their 'narative' and push it out so much that by the time the actual real details come out the majority of the public has already moved on and misses that new info, or attributes it to right wing conspiracy. 



Scoobes said:
method114 said:

Yes the revolving door thing is never ending in that world. There should already be laws stopping things like that from happening but of course no politician is going to take up that fight. 

Look I know Trump isn't the best guy for this job. It's literally the only way I can think of to stick it to "the man" and try and do something different. Is it the right way? I don't know. Will it do or change anything? I have no idea. The issue is I have no idea how to do anything about any of this. If anyone has any ideas I'd love to hear them. What I do know is voting for HIllary will guarantee that things just keep operating as is and I can't accept that.

The only way you can truly "stick it to the man" would be to leave the Country and pay your taxes elsewhere. 

Maybe you'll love it, maybe you'll hate it, but you'll at least not have to pay into their shit (just someone else's!).

That's not an option. I have over 50+ family memebers living in my area from aunts, uncles, cousins, their children, sisters, brothers, etc. I want to stay and do what I can to try and change things for the better.