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archer9234 on 23 September 2016
hershel_layton said:
mysteryman said:

You cannot be serious. 

Their simple menus are far more user-friendly than their competitors. 

They're also ad-free. 

While the 3DS has a horrible buddy system, it(and the Wii U) have simple and neat interfaces.

 

Never thought people would hate them

It be less hated. If the gamepad requirement wasn't needed for the option menus. If the video chat was actually useful. A lot of games need the gamepad to be on. So you can pass the menu screen. They never added a option to fully power it off. Things of this nature adds to Nintendo UI's hate.



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se7en7thre3 on 23 September 2016
Cloudman said:
Wow, so does that mean the NX is a powerful traditional console..?

Well the context in learning their lesson from WII U, should mean NX is definitely more of a home console than HH.  Why would you learn lessons from a failed home con, when talking about a handheld/tablet format first?  Ubi would have said learn lessons from 3DS if NX were to be a portable first machine.  So to me, if there's any validity to the FIRST ITERATION of NX being a hybrid, it will be a console primarily, that has a portable element to it.



Platina on 23 September 2016

I'll believe it when I see it :/



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Cloudman on 23 September 2016
twintail said:
Cloudman said:

I just wonder what Ubi's comment really mean..? What could have Ninten learned from the Wii U that will really help them with the NX?

Maybe its a console that actually matches its price point more accurately? Perhaps it doesnt run on a gimmick that will be difficult to implement.

If it was more traditional I think we would have probably said something to that effect. 

That's the thing though. With how vague Ubi's comment is, it could really be anything. So in the end, I find Ubi's comment to be a lil silly.

 

se7en7thre3 said:
Cloudman said:
Wow, so does that mean the NX is a powerful traditional console..?

Well the context in learning their lesson from WII U, should mean NX is definitely more of a home console than HH.  Why would you learn lessons from a failed home con, when talking about a handheld/tablet format first?  Ubi would have said learn lessons from 3DS if NX were to be a portable first machine.  So to me, if there's any validity to the FIRST ITERATION of NX being a hybrid, it will be a console primarily, that has a portable element to it.

Though my comment was a joke response to Ubi's comments, what you say does make sense and I'd hope it'd be closer to a console than a handheld.



 

              

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Pemalite on 23 September 2016
Miyamotoo said:

We are here talking about one unifed devaice where NIntendo teams are not splited on handheld and home devolpment teams, all Nintendo teams working on games for one devaice, you cant relly compare that with anuthing Nintendo done before.

Wii U was not a hybrid device, you had handheld/tablet controller but you couldn't use it on go, hybrid device of home console and handheld basically means you can use like real handheld on go or like real home console at home, and ad to that unified development of all gaming teams (not split like before on handheld and home console games), and you have totally different thing than anything before.

You are still missing the point.

Nintendo has unified game library's from multiple devices before (Mobile on home console etc') and it was never some kind of run-away success.

And the Wii U most certainly is a Hybrid device.



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Miyamotoo on 24 September 2016
Pemalite said:
Miyamotoo said:

We are here talking about one unifed devaice where NIntendo teams are not splited on handheld and home devolpment teams, all Nintendo teams working on games for one devaice, you cant relly compare that with anuthing Nintendo done before.

Wii U was not a hybrid device, you had handheld/tablet controller but you couldn't use it on go, hybrid device of home console and handheld basically means you can use like real handheld on go or like real home console at home, and ad to that unified development of all gaming teams (not split like before on handheld and home console games), and you have totally different thing than anything before.

You are still missing the point.

Nintendo has unified game library's from multiple devices before (Mobile on home console etc') and it was never some kind of run-away success.

And the Wii U most certainly is a Hybrid device.

You are missing point.

It's not same if GC could run GBA games (not to mentione that GBA couldnt run GC games), and if you have just one single device for which are developed games bought from all Nintendo handheld and home console teams (that are actualy now merged).

Of Course that Wii U is not hybrid, you cant use Wii U gamepad like real handheld on go, Wii U gamepad is basically Wii U Pro controller with screen in middle, Wii U is just a home console with tablet like controller not hybrid.



AZWification on 24 September 2016

We'll see if that's the case, Ubisoft.



                
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Wyrdness on 24 September 2016
Pemalite said:

You are still missing the point.

Nintendo has unified game library's from multiple devices before (Mobile on home console etc') and it was never some kind of run-away success.

And the Wii U most certainly is a Hybrid device.

Not even comparable to what people are speculating as portable gamers would still need to buy the home console while the home consoles would require an add on. That is not one unified library for the whole userbase as the userbases would still be separate.



Cloudman on 24 September 2016
twintail said:
Cloudman said:

That's the thing though. With how vague Ubi's comment is, it could really be anything. So in the end, I find Ubi's comment to be a lil silly.

 

Well what else can they say? its not their place to make more definitive statements without actually talking about the what Nintendo is doing, and he has no right to do that.

Well, they could say something vague like "It's something new" or "It's interesting" or state what their plans with the device are. Something like that.



 

              

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Pemalite on 24 September 2016
Miyamotoo said:
Pemalite said:

You are still missing the point.

Nintendo has unified game library's from multiple devices before (Mobile on home console etc') and it was never some kind of run-away success.

And the Wii U most certainly is a Hybrid device.

You are missing point.

It's not same if GC could run GBA games (not to mentione that GBA couldnt run GC games), and if you have just one single device for which are developed games bought from all Nintendo handheld and home console teams (that are actualy now merged).

Of Course that Wii U is not hybrid, you cant use Wii U gamepad like real handheld on go, Wii U gamepad is basically Wii U Pro controller with screen in middle, Wii U is just a home console with tablet like controller not hybrid.

We aren't talking about the form factor specifically here.

We are talking about the ability to run two platforms worth of games on a single platform, the form factor of the device is irrellevent... The fact that specific ability has never been attributed to a massive uptick in sales is a very telling fact.

The NX will likely have other attributes that should help it sell, but that specific piece of functionality I am dubious about due to historic precedence.

As for the Wii U, it is a Hybrid, the fact it has a screen in it's controller which allows for games to be played off-screen independent of the Television is a testament to that fact, even if it comes with caveats.



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