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spurgeonryan said:
IkePoR said:
Here's hoping someone showed them what a competent menu system and online interface looks like, among other things.

Ummmm....when people praise anything about the U, they praise its online.

 

 

 

One aspect of "online" is to help connect gamers to other gamers, sadly the Wii U's online system (Here in Australia anyway) is pretty barren due to the lack of console sales and how many machines are used offline.

hershel_layton said:
MikeRox said:
Unified e-shop alone would make this a big winner for many.

Wii U/3DS library together would've been unbelievably good...

 

Imagine playing Mario Maker on the go and being able to play pokemon games on home. 


It would be good but not a game changer.
The Gamecube could play Gameboy Advance games, the Nintendo 64 also had a Gameboy Advance adapter and could play some Gameboy/Gameboy Colour Games, SNES could play Gameboy games, none resulted in the consoles getting a significant uptick in sales.

I'm the largest supported of the idea of "Buy once and play anywhere" though, Microsoft is pushing it with Windows and Xbox, Nintendo has done it historically, so let's hope it gets pushed hard with Nintendo's next lot of devices.



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Nintendo reveal the thing already and keep it's name NX. That will make it more recognizable now anyway. And market it all day every day till its release. Otherwise NX might be an exercise in futility



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Great to hear this, and it seems that Ubi is relly exatied about NX and relly loves it.

About learned mistakes, from 3rd party perspective this are most likely hardware/software/development/feature Wii U issues, so that could mean more power needed to run current ports (even in 720p) whitout weak parts of hardware (for instance like Wii Us CPU), better communication with 3rd party, easy development and porting, and more modern features.


Also this:

"I think, once again, the interface is very attractive," he said. "It's a machine that will be easy to use for all gamers. They have built in something that will give us chance to really have a different experience from what exists today. That's what I like - that they come with something new that is adapted to what we actually want now."
During a separate presentation, he called it "a fantastic machine", going to on to explain that "I think it's a really new approach, it's really Nintendo, coming with something new again. We love it."


All this sound very promising for NX.



Pemalite said:



hershel_layton said:

Wii U/3DS library together would've been unbelievably good...

 

Imagine playing Mario Maker on the go and being able to play pokemon games on home. 


It would be good but not a game changer.
The Gamecube could play Gameboy Advance games, the Nintendo 64 also had a Gameboy Advance adapter and could play some Gameboy/Gameboy Colour Games, SNES could play Gameboy games, none resulted in the consoles getting a significant uptick in sales.

I'm the largest supported of the idea of "Buy once and play anywhere" though, Microsoft is pushing it with Windows and Xbox, Nintendo has done it historically, so let's hope it gets pushed hard with Nintendo's next lot of devices.

You can't really know that, you dont know how exactly would GC sell without that feature, and one of Wii U biggest problem actualy was huge software drouth, also this would be completely different thing, because you couldn't take your GC and play on go, because GC was just home console that could play GBA games and it seems that NX is hybrid devaice that act like home console and handheld in same time, totaly difrent things.



Miyamotoo said:
Pemalite said:




It would be good but not a game changer.
The Gamecube could play Gameboy Advance games, the Nintendo 64 also had a Gameboy Advance adapter and could play some Gameboy/Gameboy Colour Games, SNES could play Gameboy games, none resulted in the consoles getting a significant uptick in sales.

I'm the largest supported of the idea of "Buy once and play anywhere" though, Microsoft is pushing it with Windows and Xbox, Nintendo has done it historically, so let's hope it gets pushed hard with Nintendo's next lot of devices.

You can't really know that, you dont know how exactly would GC sell without that feature, and one of Wii U biggest problem actualy was huge software drouth, also this would be completely different thing, because you couldn't take your GC and play on go, because GC was just home console that could play GBA games and it seems that NX is hybrid devaice that act like home console and handheld in same time, totaly difrent things.

The fact of the matter is and the point you are missing is that despite Nintendo's prior home consoles being capable of running the vast majority of their mobile software (SNES (Gameboy), N64 (Gameboy, Gameboy Advance), Gamecube (Gameboy Advance)) Nintendo hasn't been able to correlate a massive  increase in sales due to the introduction of that functionality, it stands to reason it is why Nintendo didn't physically support such a scheme on the Wii and Wii U.
In-fact if you paid attention to all the reviews and such over the years, you will notice it wasn't a must-have feature on any of Nintendo's consoles.


So no. NX being a Hybrid device isn't completely different, in-fact it is irrellevent.
The Wii U is a Hybrid device, has games from prior systems emulated and it has been one of the largest flops in Nintendo's history, which is extremely sad to see.

I actually owned the SNES Gameboy adapter, it was "fine" but it's not what sold me a SNES back in the day, mobile will always have compromised visuals, always.



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Pemalite said:
Miyamotoo said:

You can't really know that, you dont know how exactly would GC sell without that feature, and one of Wii U biggest problem actualy was huge software drouth, also this would be completely different thing, because you couldn't take your GC and play on go, because GC was just home console that could play GBA games and it seems that NX is hybrid devaice that act like home console and handheld in same time, totaly difrent things.

The fact of the matter is and the point you are missing is that despite Nintendo's prior home consoles being capable of running the vast majority of their mobile software (SNES (Gameboy), N64 (Gameboy, Gameboy Advance), Gamecube (Gameboy Advance)) Nintendo hasn't been able to correlate a massive  increase in sales due to the introduction of that functionality, it stands to reason it is why Nintendo didn't physically support such a scheme on the Wii and Wii U.
In-fact if you paid attention to all the reviews and such over the years, you will notice it wasn't a must-have feature on any of Nintendo's consoles.


So no. NX being a Hybrid device isn't completely different, in-fact it is irrellevent.
The Wii U is a Hybrid device, has games from prior systems emulated and it has been one of the largest flops in Nintendo's history, which is extremely sad to see.

I actually owned the SNES Gameboy adapter, it was "fine" but it's not what sold me a SNES back in the day, mobile will always have compromised visuals, always.

We are here talking about one unifed devaice where NIntendo teams are not splited on handheld and home devolpment teams, all Nintendo teams working on games for one devaice, you cant relly compare that with anuthing Nintendo done before.

Wii U was not a hybrid device, you had handheld/tablet controller but you couldn't use it on go, hybrid device of home console and handheld basically means you can use like real handheld on go or like real home console at home, and ad to that unified development of all gaming teams (not split like before on handheld and home console games), and you have totally different thing than anything before.



I hope Nintendo learned. Hopefully the controller isn't as stupid as the gamepad was for Wii U.



twintail said:
Cloudman said:
Wow, so does that mean the NX is a powerful traditional console..?

Just means they can see money potential. 

I just wonder what Ubi's comment really mean..? What could have Ninten learned from the Wii U that will really help them with the NX?



 

              

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IkePoR said:
Here's hoping someone showed them what a competent menu system and online interface looks like, among other things.

What is wrong with the Nintendo UI?  It is basic and is pretty damn simple to launch games, Netflix, etc...



Sixteenvolt420 said:
I hope Nintendo learned. Hopefully the controller isn't as stupid as the gamepad was for Wii U.

Well at least there were many controller options for most games.  I think some devs just used the gamepad as an excuse.  Oh we don't know what to do with it.  They could of just had it mirror the same screen and allowed Pro controller, Wiimote + nunchuck, and CCP options also.  They were just too late and the tablet craze cooled off right before they released.  Gamepad is nice for certain things but it cost them power trade off.