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pokoko said:
To be fair, Trump has his own group of celebrities endorsing him, as well.

Mike Tyson, Hulk Hogan, Gary Busey, the cast of Duck Dynasty ...

Don't forget about Charles in Charge and Antoino Sabato Jr.



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It's a political ad, it doesn't have to be "neutral" nor do people (even famous people) need to have neutral opinions.

The reason it's pushing voter registration is generally the Democrats win when voter turn out is high. Republicans benefit when voter turn out is low, that's why they usually try to supress voter registration. 

I believe Robert Downey Jr. is/was a Republican by the way, so the fact that he's in an anti-Trump ad is pretty damning.



Probably the best thing these actors have been in for years...



Ouroboros24 said:
JWeinCom said:

The importance of voting was not their message.  The importance of voting against Drumpf was their message.  They called him a racist that threatens the fabric of the country, referred to a potential Drumpf presidency as a nightmare, mentioned specific Drumpf stances they disagreed with (immigration/gun laws), an so on.  There wasn't much subtlety, hiding, or trickery involved here.  Just because they didn't yell "fuck Drumpf" at the very begining of the video doesn't mean it was "supposed" to be about anything else.

Well I'm glad you see it that way.  Just goes to show you know what you're talking about.  The thing is, not everyone is going to see that.  And honestly, I disagree with you about there not being trickery or subtlety in this video.  Because there is subtlety in what it's saying.  It's just that their subtlety is poorly disguised and sinking like a lead pipe.  If they were to put out a companion site that wasn't "http://www.savetheday.vote" or the sub header being "Save the day.  Vote.", then I would agree with you in that it was a simple anti trump message.  But as it is, there is an underlying sense that they want to use the topic of vote to push their anti-trump message and that alone is what makes the video disingenous. 

"A racist, abusive, coward, who can permanently damage the fabric of our society."

It would be hard to be any less subtle if they tried.  There is nothing disingenous about it. The format was made as a satire against the PSA format it's based off of.   If anyone watches this video and does not get that it's an anti-trump video, there is something wrong with them.  As for arguing about the URL, that's like arguing that amazon is trying to deceive people because their website isn't actually about the Amazon. 



Ouroboros24 said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRp1CK_X_Yw

Watch that.  This is really upsetting to me.  They push the importance of voting, but back handedly are telling us to go their way.  This is how Obama won his two elections and I guess the celebrity machine is at it again.  You celebrities are popular, I get it, but between you and I and everyone else, your opinions are your own and mines are mines.  Just because you have the power to go out there and push your personal agendas, well to me it's just selfish. 

Remember, it's one thing to tell the importance of voting, it's another thing to whisper your personal believes on to others. 

Selfish to think that you can dictacte any American's right to talk about what they believe. Selfish, and un-American. If you don't like that they have views other than your own, and you want to silence them for that reason, you should reflect on whether or not that's a very American feeling. Obama won because more people voted for him. He's very popular right now. You can convince yourself it's because 'celebrities' all you want, but if you don't understand that, you won't understand the country you live in.

Talking about your beliefs to others is an essential aspect of a functioning democracy.



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Oh, that was so cute.



                
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What about the celeb running for president pushing his agenda?



I really don't see why conservatives bitch about Hollywood pushing an agenda. It's no different from what megachurch pastors in Texas and North Carolina do to push their congregations to vote for their agendas, except that the latter operate under tax-exempt 501( c ) status.



SanAndreasX said:

I really don't see why conservatives bitch about Hollywood pushing an agenda. It's no different from what megachurch pastors in Texas and North Carolina do to push their congregations to vote for their agendas, except that the latter operate under tax-exempt 501( c ) status.

Amazing point. The tax exempt status of religious organizations is an outrage.



RJ_Sizzle said:
What about the celeb running for president pushing his agenda?

winner right here

 

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