Are you counting with the 60$ per year you have to pay to play online on the pro while on PC it's free? How long are you planning to have your pro before you buy ps5? 6 - 7 years maybe?

Well add to the pro 320$ to play online for its lifespan and also add 10 - 20$ more per game if you buy physical media or about 30$ per game if you buy digital. 

TL;DR: when ps4 pro has free online, cheaper games and mods (even X1 got mods lol) maybe it wont be a joke to the eyes of pcgamers (not only ps4 pro is, all consoles are but ps4 specially because Sony is trying to sell upscaled 4k like something incredible).

whos getting a Pro?

I will get one eventually. I have already sold my PS4 but I'll need one again for when Soony decides to finally release all those promising exclusives.

It comes packaged with an adapter so that you can use wired earbuds if you like. Don't really think it's a big deal for that reason.

They certainly have nice cameras.

I'm posting this from elsewhere as I feel, much like anyone facing down the judicial system, that everyone is entitled to a public defender lol:

I have the iPhone 7 and really, really like it lol

The speakers are remarkably loud now, the home button is actually quite cool (it has that tactile thing so it does "click" and vibrate when on) and it's capable of reading your thumb print so you needn't bother with typing in a password.

Otherwise, I like the wireless earbuds (especially as it apparently made room for the improved speakers) and it came packaged with an adapter and wired earbuds for those who want to use them. As a person who's been using iTunes for over a decade now and their App Store for about a decade, both remain a convenient and easy way of keeping all my stuff uniform across my devices and computers.

The screen is beautiful, the battery life greatly improved (I've been on the internet for 20 minutes now and it just hit 99%), the storage was greatly increased, it simply runs remarkably fast with no noticeable lag, the backup cloud is a very easy way to avoid losing photos and docs, it's water resistant (finally), it seems to handle the internet better than any phone I've tried (it's easily working with vgchartz now which was never the case before lol), the camera still the best on the market among smart phones... I know it's in fashion to hate everything apple does and I have my own complaints (still seems fragile/designed to slip out of pocket/don't like power button on side), but this is truly a superb phone. I don't understand why everyone has to get so darn angry about it lol

I'm not PMing you to discuss something that you're so blatantly wrong about. Everyone but you seems to understand it. I'm done talking to you.

The joke: consoles. 

And yet people are lighting quick to argue they don't want to carry ANOTHER adapter with them. 

No one counters (or maybe it hasn't occurred to them) that you just leave the adapter on the headphones you use with the iPhone. Problem solved. 

About the only legitimate argument at that point is "I don't want to pay Apple X for more adapters" even though we'll be seeing cheap copies for next to nothing within the year. 

It's all gross. Just gross. Apple. MS. Gross.

Everyone is critical of Number One, especially when the current winner also enjoys a high level of popularity. There's something in human nature that makes them want to play contrarian. 

No, Apple isn't immune from critique as they have plenty of areas to address with regards to improvements or being the industry leader, but they do receive more anger/flak because of their market position.