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Azuren said:
Zkuq said:

At what distance? For my 43" 1080p TV, that seems about right. Of course the distances might not be entirely correct, but the point still stands. I'm sure you can notice some improvement even at longer distance, but at some point it'll be diminishing returns.

Also, the chances are that what you're showing them is better in ways other than just resolution, and they're noticing the other improvements too.

Most people notice a difference at roughly 6ft away. We have it sitting next to a 40" w650D from Sony, and both are playing Apollo (one on Bluray, one on 4K Bluray). The typical response is "Wow".

Well, 6' isn't too far from being suitable for 4k according to that chart, so although it's not entirely correct, it's not that far off either. I'd say the chart is at least helpful, even if you can't rely on it completely. Actually it'd be interesting to see a chart about the optimal physical pixel size as a function of eye sight. Would make it really easy to calculate the optimal viewing distance for each eye sight and screen size. In addition to the optimal viewing distance, it would also be interesting to know the limits at which you can still notice the benefits.



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Azuren,

I can get employee pricing on the Samsung, which is why it is on top of my very short list. Seeing as you are a salesman, can you compare the X850D, X850C and X900C? I am wondering if the X850D is really that much better than lasts year's models. And how bad is the light bleeding on the X900C really? There are some really great deals going on the X900C, but if it is that terrible, I will pass. I will be viewing in a large living room with some light control, but nothing theater dark. I know you say that ~100ms response time is not that big of a deal, but I am a PC gamer and will for sure be connected to this TV to play games as well, but not as often as console gaming or tv viewing.



Wildcard36qs said:
Azuren,

I can get employee pricing on the Samsung, which is why it is on top of my very short list. Seeing as you are a salesman, can you compare the X850D, X850C and X900C? I am wondering if the X850D is really that much better than lasts year's models. And how bad is the light bleeding on the X900C really? There are some really great deals going on the X900C, but if it is that terrible, I will pass. I will be viewing in a large living room with some light control, but nothing theater dark. I know you say that ~100ms response time is not that big of a deal, but I am a PC gamer and will for sure be connected to this TV to play games as well, but not as often as console gaming or tv viewing.

The 850C is, honestly, a smidge better than the 850D overall, but you're really not losing much that is noticeable. If you can find an 850C, I would say go for it, they should be fairly cheap being discontinued.

The 900C is absolutely fucking awful. I actually had to get onto my salesmen for selling it without making the lightbleed aware to the customer (the bright demo makes the lightbleed difficult to see). The only thing it was good for was passive 3D, and no one cares about 3D anymore. The lightbleed on a black screen will turn it a dark gray. A noticeable dark gray.

Well, I use my 930D as my monitor as well, but I won't blame you for going with a lower input lag. Just see if you can turn off the smart functions of the TV itself; that should address some of the artifacting, and your PC will take care of making it's own image look good.



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As others suggest, use rtings.com for some help comparing and knowing what's what...

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Dolby Vision is one of those betamax situations, except Sony's not on the losing side of it. I was told by both our Bravia and PlayStation reps not to expect DV on PS4Pro, since Sony doesn't support it on their TVs. That aside, you really want to avoid LG and Vizio, anyway. The KS8000 is the lowest cost HDR10 with local dimming, but it scored pretty low (along with the KS9000). as far as the "affordable" range is concerned, the 930D has the highest score among the two brands thanks to its Slim Backlight Drive, but it sacrifices input lag for it (I personally own an XBR55X930D, and I don't really find the input lag to be too offputting, tbqh).

And like most of my friends here, you went with the 800D as a good small model, and I couldn't agree more. Though it does suffer from light banding, it's the only 10-bit series available for under $1000, and is nice and thin. No local dimming, but it's not the end of the world. I wouldn't recommend Vizio's, though; they intentionally buy bad panels at a lower price to save on cost. Sure, they pass the savings on to you, but I've never seen a non-Sharp brand come back as much as Vizio.

The KS8000 is a great choice, and if 60" is the perfect size, you won't have any options like that in a Sony, anyway.

We have a Z9D set up next to my manager podium.

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Man, that Z9D.

I've not had a bad experience with Vizio but that is a very narrow generalization. I figured their P Series would offer enough quality in that tier. Though I wouldn't get the 55" and sacrifice the size from the 60" KS8000; and the 65" would nix my entertainment center. The KS8000 is going to look great, even with less contrast due to its weaker local dimming.



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The perfect TV for the Pro is the Sony Z9D series. I went to Best Buy the week before the Pro event and saw this beauty of a TV, and decided right then and there I was going to be getting that for what ever the Neo turned out to be. Sony demo'ed the Pro on the z9D, and IMO the 9D blew people in attendence away more than the Pro. Most people have not see a TV on the level of the Z9D because it is the only one in it's class.

Only problem with the Z9D is the price. $6K for 65" or $9K for 75". But, when I say it looks like a next gen TV, I am absolutly not exaggerating, I look at TV's all year, and I have not been blown away since the old SXRD Rear Projection TV's Sony made back in the mid 2000's. The Z9D from my experince with it, is an even greater jump, then the jump from SD to HD. Now I can't wait to what it lloks like connected to the Pro Nov 10th.



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If you have deep pockets I'd say the Sony ZD9, it's even better than the new LG Oleds. It has more input lag but it's still low enough that a gamer wouldn't notice it, except maybe if you're a pro esport player.



Robert_Downey_Jr. said:

So I'm shopping around looking for the best TV to pair with my PS4 Pro.  Don't need a ton of screen size but looking for something that will take full advantage.  I've heard that OLED makes a big difference with colors even compared to other HDR and 4k sets.  The 4k and HDR are essential since that's what I'm getting the Pro to see.  The OLED I'm willing to be convinced either way whether it's worth the extra bucks.  I mean there's a 43" Sony that has HDR10 but no OLED then there's a 55" LG that is OLED but is about $1,000 more expensive.  Have you guys put a lot of research into this or seen them side by side?  What TV would you recommend for getting the most out of a PS4 Pro?

EDIT:  Also guys I forgot to mention that input lag is NOT a concern!  I have never noticed and don't play competitively online so not an issue to consider for me when selecting TVs.  I'm also getting it a lot for movie viewing

I know this may sound strange but if you are more seriously into games then a 4K monitor may be the better and cheaper solution since a 27" to 32" one may be the best fit for you. Obviously look at all the features that you require such as HDR10 (PS4pro) and at least one or more HDMI ports.  An optical out may also be of use to connect to an external amplifier (assuming optical in) since TV and monitor speakers are normally just barebones although the PS4pro (also the original PS4) does have one as well.

Oh and latency does matter when using HDR even if you are playing single-player games.

Having at least one HDMI port also will allow you to switch between your PC and PS4pro easily although be careful two HDMI ports will work fine but some PC video ports may drop signal . I actually do this with my Desktop PC (HDMI) and PS4 (HDMI) and I can toggle within seconds.

If you want a 4K TV for your lounge I strongly suggest 60" or above (the bigger the better within reason and of course your budget). I have a 55" HDTV and it is great in my lounge but if I decide to eventually get a UHD TV I would be looking at 70" upwards.

One of the main reasons for suggesting a monitor is depending on the members of your household. If you are the only one then no problems but with two or more members you will invariably have conflicts between gaming, watching TV and even playing movies. Also keep in mind that the PS4/PS4pro are fairly small and portable and can be quickly be moved when required since the power and HDMI (2.0a) cables are industry standard and are very cheap so you can cheaply get another one.

When choosing screens  do you want flat or curved? If you choose curved  you will be able to sit closer but you may find this disorienting so obviously check. I would also recommend checking (minimum 30 minutes) if you are considering the PS Virtual Reality headset (try cinema mode as well) or any VR device.

There are plenty of good technical sites that can give better advice and not all of them are technical to the point where you need an engineering degree to understand. However, it does help to be more technically aware when choosing 4K TV's or monitors because there is allot of hype out there.



On the market for a new TV soon myself so tagging this and will read later.