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Soundwave said:
The_Yoda said:

I'm thinking the Kurds are likely happy to see Saddam gone.  Have you ever read how and what he did to them?

There are dictators in every corner of the Middle East and Africa, we gonna go fight all of them? 

The Kurds are now getting killed by ISIS instead of Saddam. And once ISIS is defeated in about a year most likely, then it'll be some other damn group. 

So instead of one guy who hates Kurds (Saddam) you now have a group that hates Kurds, Yazidis, Americans, Russians, etc. and anyone else who isn't a hardcore Sunni. 

Maybe we should just stay the fuck outta the Middle East, doesn't seem like anything we do there does any good, it just leads to more problems. 

Yes let a country get out of its own shit. That's what sovereignty is. You think if some country interrupted the USA when the civil war was going on, it would be the world power it is today. A country has its own identity and responsibility and has to take care of its own problems and grow. Your stupid interventions just crippled the middle east and Asia got the gift of Isis and Taliban. The damn Taliban kill a hell of a lot of Muslims then the dictators or the amount of non believers they kill and so do daesh. So USA screwed the middle east over and more than once I might add



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Turkish said:
tokilamockingbrd said:

So after Hillary decided to disparage a vast majority of Americans was going to skip this election. But attacks against 1 group of US citizens to strenghten your own cannot go unchecked. So I am voting for Trump. 

I keep reading about this alt right movement. I have spent some time on Reddit, in their Politics sub and "The Donald" and from what I can tell it is a group of people who hate the PC culture and troll it any chance they get. Recently this has lead to Hilary herself saying a cartoon frog was a racist symbol and the economist writing some sort of hatchet job trying to explain it.

I for one am not sure, I explain my take on it but would like to be further enlightened. 

But Drumpf also attacks other groups of US citizens to strengthen his own, that would make you a hypocrite.

not citizens. key distinction. think about it, the group are people who are not actually americans. 



psn- tokila

add me, the more the merrier.

Its harsh realpolitik

However the middle east was best served by dictators that would either rise or fall based on the peoples own actions.



LadyJasmine said:
Its harsh realpolitik

However the middle east was best served by dictators that would either rise or fall based on the peoples own actions.

Exactly this. Let the nation do what it needs to do. The only nation who deserves to he interfered with is one who disrupts other nations not for its own protection, but for other dumb reasons, basically a nation like the USA



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SpokenTruth said:
tokilamockingbrd said:

not citizens. key distinction. think about it, the group are people who are not actually americans. 

Minorites, women, vets, police (yesterday), handicapped, and the list goes on and on.   All citizens.

Don't foget "the blacks" and Muslims who are already USA citizens



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Eagle367 said:
Slimebeast said:

So you assume that a person cannot be hostile to his own kind? Apparently you come from a culture with more healthy values when it comes to ethnicity and don't know everything about the twisted mentality of some whites.

The whole left/marxist political movement is anti-white.

I don't know what you refer to when you talk about being upset by another language but I hear that you clearly have an outside perspective on this, your view is that white nations are very powerful and privileged, while being unaware of the issues we have gotten in the last three decades with multiculturalism and mass immigration.

We're not upset by some minority language or minorities following innocent traditions.

We're upset by things like ethnic Swedes becoming minority in their own country (and many people are rightfully concerned about white people becoming a minority in the USA), and upset by the serious problems that have followed mass immigration, like huge costs for the public economy, the chaos in schools, increase in crime and so on

Have you heard about the mass gropings in Cologne in the New year's eve of 2015/2016? That's just a tip of an iceberg.

All your claims are completely unfounded and not based on actual hard facts. Show me figures graphs facts etc. Why should I take your word for it whose so pro-white. And let me tell you in the world you are a minority so it will slowly start to reflect that anyways. And your classification of white is so general its stupid. We have germans dutch English French and let me tell you Iranians are more white than any Spanish. Also in browns you have Arabs from different countries you have turks Kurds you also have Indians who have many races and then in Pakistan you have baloch Punjabi Sindhi pathan then Bangladeshi etc. Then you have yellows who are chinese Japanese mongols Uzbeks phillipinos etc. You have blacks from Sudan south Africa Kenya etc and all of these people have different races hell most countries have more than one race in them.

I won't bother to post any graphs just because you ask for it. But in my post those were actually quite vague general claims and well within the limits of representing reality correctly. But I have the data to be far more specific if I would want to. I'll just throw one here: people with immigrant background are 5-10 times more likely to commit violent crimes than the ethnic population in all Scandinavian nations. Roughly 2/3 of inmates have immigrant background while only making up around 20% of the population of Scandinavia as a whole (nearly 30% if you only include the younger age classes of the population, the ages who are more crime-active, which would give an overrepresentation of x6.7). Make of it what you want.

You criticize my classification of white but actually I haven't defined white anywhere in this thread! I'm refering to the general classic definition of white, which in official statistics increasingly is based on self-reporting though.

The definition is historically not based on literal skin color, but ethnicity. By the way, Iranians themselves talk about "white Iranians" and "brown Iranians" because they're geographically in between areas with different types of ethnic groups, Asia, Caucasia, Arabia, Europe.



the-pi-guy said:
outlawauron said:

Literally, the only definition provided so far as been a image put together by a 4chan poster. Wasn't aware that's what all was needed to make a definitive judgment about a group of people. Where has someone said that non-white, women, and gay people are below them?

http://www.vox.com/2016/9/19/12970134/alt-right-racism

There wasn't anything even remotely racist, misogynist or homophobic said in that video.



To Hillary it's anyone who doesn't support her.



the-pi-guy said:
Slimebeast said:

There wasn't anything even remotely racist, misogynist or homophobic said in that video.

Disliking becoming a racial minority isn't racist?

-It's not racist to think that your country should be mostly white?  

-It's not racist to think black people are dumber than whites?  "blacks have an average IQ of 85."

How is that not racist?  

Someone should let the "alt-right" folkes know that America is basically already becoming a "minority-majority" country. 44% of millenials (the no.1 demographic group in the US now) is a minority, the generation of kids coming up behind them is over 50% 'minority'. But I'm guessing they're too stupid to do the math on that. 



Slimebeast said:
Eagle367 said:

All your claims are completely unfounded and not based on actual hard facts. Show me figures graphs facts etc. Why should I take your word for it whose so pro-white. And let me tell you in the world you are a minority so it will slowly start to reflect that anyways. And your classification of white is so general its stupid. We have germans dutch English French and let me tell you Iranians are more white than any Spanish. Also in browns you have Arabs from different countries you have turks Kurds you also have Indians who have many races and then in Pakistan you have baloch Punjabi Sindhi pathan then Bangladeshi etc. Then you have yellows who are chinese Japanese mongols Uzbeks phillipinos etc. You have blacks from Sudan south Africa Kenya etc and all of these people have different races hell most countries have more than one race in them.

I won't bother to post any graphs just because you ask for it. But in my post those were actually quite vague general claims and well within the limits of representing reality correctly. But I have the data to be far more specific if I would want to. I'll just throw one here: people with immigrant background are 5-10 times more likely to commit violent crimes than the ethnic population in all Scandinavian nations. Roughly 2/3 of inmates have immigrant background while only making up around 20% of the population of Scandinavia as a whole (nearly 30% if you only include the younger age classes of the population, the ages who are more crime-active, which would give an overrepresentation of x6.7). Make of it what you want.

You criticize my classification of white but actually I haven't defined white anywhere in this thread! I'm refering to the general classic definition of white, which in official statistics increasingly is based on self-reporting though.

The definition is historically not based on literal skin color, but ethnicity. By the way, Iranians themselves talk about "white Iranians" and "brown Iranians" because they're geographically in between areas with different types of ethnic groups, Asia, Caucasia, Arabia, Europe.

So you are just throwing stuff out there. No official source but claim immigrants are so damn dangerous. Figures that you would be like that. I can say stuff like that as well. Like 4 out of 5 europeans and amaericans waste more than 100kg of food every year. Its not true and you and i both know its not true just like your statistics, these are completely unfounded.I can say whatever and without evidence its just the babbling of a biased dude



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