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outlawauron on 19 September 2016
SpokenTruth said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Dems argue the cost of the wall. Therefore it makes sense to take advantage of cheaper labor. We already have millions in our country illegally, so we have locals to recruit for the job and that should be a path to citizenship.

The wall would would create jobs for Americans, but its not the only way to stimulate new jobs.

So we are going to illegally hire people?   I thought it was illegal to hire illegal immigrants.

 

And how does the wall create jobs for Americans?   It's a wall.

Who else is going to man the guntowers?



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LadyJasmine on 19 September 2016

To stop illegal immigration, legalize the ones who are hire.

Deport all the ones who serve no benefit to the nation (US has no moral obligation to keep such people) and then ban employers with a iron fist in hiring illegals.



The_Yoda on 19 September 2016
Soundwave said:
Mr Puggsly said:

And many die by simply avoiding the war, you don't win either way. I don't believe avoiding Iraq was an option. Kinda like those wacky Germans in the 40s. The reality is Saddam was a threat and needed to be eliminated.

If Trump is fucking other broads, I would hope he has the decency not debate what is sex. People think Clinton lied to protect his relationship, he just didn't want to admit Hilary doesn't care if he fucks other broads. But lets move on...

I'm in the US, born and raised.

Except even Trump says getting rid of Saddam was a bad idea. Saddam was a "threat" to who exactly? You think an Iraqi army was going to land on US soil any time soon? The US got nothing out of that war which cost $1.7 trillion and killed hundreds of thousands, about 5000 dead US troops and 30,000 maimed in the line of duty.  

I'm thinking the Kurds are likely happy to see Saddam gone.  Have you ever read how and what he did to them?



Soundwave on 20 September 2016
The_Yoda said:
Soundwave said:

Except even Trump says getting rid of Saddam was a bad idea. Saddam was a "threat" to who exactly? You think an Iraqi army was going to land on US soil any time soon? The US got nothing out of that war which cost $1.7 trillion and killed hundreds of thousands, about 5000 dead US troops and 30,000 maimed in the line of duty.  

I'm thinking the Kurds are likely happy to see Saddam gone.  Have you ever read how and what he did to them?

There are dictators in every corner of the Middle East and Africa, we gonna go fight all of them? 

The Kurds are now getting killed by ISIS instead of Saddam. And once ISIS is defeated in about a year most likely, then it'll be some other damn group. 

So instead of one guy who hates Kurds (Saddam) you now have a group that hates Kurds, Yazidis, Americans, Russians, etc. and anyone else who isn't a hardcore Sunni. 

Maybe we should just stay the fuck outta the Middle East, doesn't seem like anything we do there does any good, it just leads to more problems. 



outlawauron on 20 September 2016
the-pi-guy said:
outlawauron said:

Literally, the only definition provided so far as been a image put together by a 4chan poster. Wasn't aware that's what all was needed to make a definitive judgment about a group of people. Where has someone said that non-white, women, and gay people are below them?

http://www.vox.com/2016/9/19/12970134/alt-right-racism

Would you read an article defending the "alt-right" from breitbart? (I wouldn't and I don't imagine you would either) Thus, I won't even waste my time clicking something from Vox.



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Machiavellian on 20 September 2016
numberwang said:

Originally everyone on the right that opposed GWB aka the neocons. Not a unified group.

 

Just for fun:

Obama - "The future must not belong to the those who slander the prophet of Islam"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWEza4ghNNg

Why don't you post the whole video speach instead of just that one part since any statement taken out of context can made to appear whatever people want.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAwMpL7POyo

Nothing pisses me off then people trying to support some type of dumb position by taken statements out of context.



The_Yoda on 20 September 2016
Soundwave said:
The_Yoda said:

I'm thinking the Kurds are likely happy to see Saddam gone.  Have you ever read how and what he did to them?

There are dictators in every corner of the Middle East and Africa, we gonna go fight all of them? 

The Kurds are now getting killed by ISIS instead of Saddam. And once ISIS is defeated in about a year most likely, then it'll be some other damn group. 

So instead of one guy who hates Kurds (Saddam) you now have a group that hates Kurds, Yazidis, Americans, Russians, etc. and anyone else who isn't a hardcore Sunni. 

Maybe we should just stay the fuck outta the Middle East, doesn't seem like anything we do there does any good, it just leads to more problems. 

Iraq's era under President Saddam Hussein was notorious for its severe violations of human rights. Secret police, torture, mass murder, rape, deportations, forced disappearances, assassinations, chemical warfare, and the destruction of southern Iraq's marshes were some of the methods the country's Ba'athist government used to maintain control. The total number of deaths related to torture and murder during this period are unknown. Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International issued regular reports of widespread imprisonment and torture.


In January 2004, Human Rights Watch stated: "Having devoted extensive time and effort to documenting [Saddam's] atrocities, we estimate that in the last twenty-five years of Ba'th Party rule the Iraqi government murdered or 'disappeared' some quarter of a million Iraqis, if not more."


Lots of dictators sure, but how many of them are using VX, Sarin, mustard gas, cyanide, ect on a quarter million people? You're correct we cannot nor should we be involved in removing every dictator in the world but we also shouldn't turn a blind eye to the truly deplorable ones either.  I suppose you think we should have left Hitler alone? There are people that still hate on the Jews so what good did taking Hitler out do? Weak argument, I expected better of you Soundwave.


I will say in general our efforts in the middle east have done more harm than good but we have done an awful lot of meddling over the years.

 



Machiavellian on 20 September 2016
Soundwave said:
The_Yoda said:

I'm thinking the Kurds are likely happy to see Saddam gone.  Have you ever read how and what he did to them?

There are dictators in every corner of the Middle East and Africa, we gonna go fight all of them? 

The Kurds are now getting killed by ISIS instead of Saddam. And once ISIS is defeated in about a year most likely, then it'll be some other damn group. 

So instead of one guy who hates Kurds (Saddam) you now have a group that hates Kurds, Yazidis, Americans, Russians, etc. and anyone else who isn't a hardcore Sunni. 

Maybe we should just stay the fuck outta the Middle East, doesn't seem like anything we do there does any good, it just leads to more problems. 

Well ISSIS or Saddam is pretty much the same thing since ISSIS is formed from Saddam's disbanded army.  The middle east is a hot bed of a lot of things but US intervention is not always because someone is a bad person.  



outlawauron on 20 September 2016
SpokenTruth said:
outlawauron said:

Who else is going to man the guntowers?

We currently employ 21,000 border patrol agents already.  On a 1,989 mile border, that's an armed guard tower every 500 feet.  Not even Germany had towers that close along the Berlin Wall.

Well, if you want to be serious, you would divide that number by 6. Two guards per tower, on a rotating 8 hour shift. 3 shifts per day.



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Eagle367 on 20 September 2016
Slimebeast said:
Normchacho said:

Uuuhhhh...what? 

1. The very white Hillary Clinton is anti-white?

 

2. No group of people in history has done a better job of caring about their own kind than white guys. To such a degree that the language the alt-right gets so upset from hearing, is the language from another white European nation.

 

There is a group of people in the United States who operate from such a point of privilege that simply failing to assume that everyone follows the same culture and traditions that they do is seen as an offense and an attack. And when you sit down and think about it, that's fucking insane.

So you assume that a person cannot be hostile to his own kind? Apparently you come from a culture with more healthy values when it comes to ethnicity and don't know everything about the twisted mentality of some whites.

The whole left/marxist political movement is anti-white.

I don't know what you refer to when you talk about being upset by another language but I hear that you clearly have an outside perspective on this, your view is that white nations are very powerful and privileged, while being unaware of the issues we have gotten in the last three decades with multiculturalism and mass immigration.

We're not upset by some minority language or minorities following innocent traditions.

We're upset by things like ethnic Swedes becoming minority in their own country (and many people are rightfully concerned about white people becoming a minority in the USA), and upset by the serious problems that have followed mass immigration, like huge costs for the public economy, the chaos in schools, increase in crime and so on

Have you heard about the mass gropings in Cologne in the New year's eve of 2015/2016? That's just a tip of an iceberg.

All your claims are completely unfounded and not based on actual hard facts. Show me figures graphs facts etc. Why should I take your word for it whose so pro-white. And let me tell you in the world you are a minority so it will slowly start to reflect that anyways. And your classification of white is so general its stupid. We have germans dutch English French and let me tell you Iranians are more white than any Spanish. Also in browns you have Arabs from different countries you have turks Kurds you also have Indians who have many races and then in Pakistan you have baloch Punjabi Sindhi pathan then Bangladeshi etc. Then you have yellows who are chinese Japanese mongols Uzbeks phillipinos etc. You have blacks from Sudan south Africa Kenya etc and all of these people have different races hell most countries have more than one race in them.



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