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sethnintendo said:
Xen said:
Anything that isn't a potato on windows these days comes with Realtek HD audio manager (provided that you use most on-board sound chips... and they are in most motherboards... you need to install sound drivers as well, of course), said manager is in control panel (the proper one, not the limited win10 one) in hardware and sound -> realtek HD audio manager.

It has a bunch of options for controlling audio.

I could have sworn on the sound settings in Windows XP you could click on advance options and change your equalizer that way.  I forgot about Realtek which I quickly change my equalizer to rock.  Just seems like it was easier to tweak the sound settings in XP without having to go to another program.

Memory says to me: such a thing existed, I remember it.

But google doesn't find it, so perhaps it's some simple side utility that just integrated itself into the WXP shell.



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When I plug in my line-out, Realtek HD Audio Manager pops up. It's got quite a few options and lets you save EQ presets. This was added when I upgraded my drivers after moving to Windows 10. Until I did that, I wasn't getting any sound at all.

Foobar2000, which is the player I use, also has an EQ but the Realtek manager is more convenient.

I'm plugging my PC into my stereo amp, though, which has its own built-in EQ.



sethnintendo said:

Funny you bring this up. I was like what you can't change treble or bass in Windows 10. I'm trying to find the way to do it in Windows 7. Why the fuck did they dumb sound settings down? I'm sure I could boot up my XP computer and it would have all the options right there in front of me.  I hate when they dumb shit down and take away options.

Yeah, I was shocked when I realized they just weren't there lol

I hope someone has a good explanation.



Peh said:
Hmm? Need to check the moment I am at home. Got a pci-e sound blaster card. Whatever the correct name is, and a 5.1 logitech soundsystem.

Well with a dedicated Soundblaster sound card you probably have special software to go with it so Im afraid that won't be of any help at this moment. But please check wheen you get home.

Damn it, maybe I should have installed my old Soundblaster in my new PC.



sethnintendo said:

Funny you bring this up. I was like what you can't change treble or bass in Windows 10. I'm trying to find the way to do it in Windows 7. Why the fuck did they dumb sound settings down? I'm sure I could boot up my XP computer and it would have all the options right there in front of me.  I hate when they dumb shit down and take away options.

Microsoft just does whatever they want, honestly.  I used to use Windows Media Player now and then just because it had some nifty visualizations that I'd leave on to hide the screen.  With Windows 10, that's gone.  I hunted all over for the option, getting more and more pissed off, before I took to google and eventually found that they'd simply taken it out.



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vivster said:
If you have money to spend on good headphones then get yourself a fitting sound card. I recommend the ASUS Xonar DG. It's an entry level sound card but it's 10 times better than any onboard sound. Of course it includes a software for plenty of control.

85 Euros didn't feel like a lot of money for this awesome quality.

But buying dedicated sound cards for the PC is a thing from the past. Or so I heard, many times. People say that as an ordinary user you just don't need a sound card because on-board audio reached such good quality a few years ago. Only professional musicians need dedicated sound cards, but it's meaningless for ordinary audiophiles and gamers.

Specifically I heard that Soundblaster pretty much went out of business or changed their business strategy half a decade ago due to people not needing sound cards anymore. One review said that the later SB card just couldn't improve regular audio sources anymore (like games, movies, CDs), only provide some sort of filtering techniques if you wanted to improve and edit crappy sounds, like filtering unwanted noice from a concert recorded with your mobile phone and stuff like that.

Do you have a sound card yourself, vivst?



I use a FiiO e06. Its EQ has basic bass and treble controls, but its quality is far better than any software EQ I've used.



Slimebeast said:
vivster said:
If you have money to spend on good headphones then get yourself a fitting sound card. I recommend the ASUS Xonar DG. It's an entry level sound card but it's 10 times better than any onboard sound. Of course it includes a software for plenty of control.

85 Euros didn't feel like a lot of money for this awesome quality.

But buying dedicated sound cards for the PC is a thing from the past. Or so I heard, many times. People say that as an ordinary user you just don't need a sound card because on-board audio reached such good quality a few years ago. Only professional musicians need dedicated sound cards, but it's meaningless for ordinary audiophiles and gamers.

Specifically I heard that Soundblaster pretty much went out of business or changed their business strategy half a decade ago due to people not needing sound cards anymore. One review said that the later SB card just couldn't improve regular audio sources anymore (like games, movies, CDs), only provide some sort of filtering techniques if you wanted to improve and edit crappy sounds, like filtering unwanted noice from a concert recorded with your mobile phone and stuff like that.

Do you have a sound card yourself, vivst?

Having a separate sound card is ubiquitous if you use cheap $10 - $50 speakers. But if you have quality headphones and/or speakers connected to your PC having a sound card is a must. The DAC quality far exceeds what onboard can give and onboard audio will have noise from the motherboard that is nearly impossible to get of without an add-on card or external DAC. 

In your case, you have very high quality headphones that need a better DAC to fully utilize, and if you use a sound card you will have the software's EQ option that can be set by app or universally. 

I have a very nice Logitech Z5500 5.1 system for my PC and the difference between using my SoundBlaster Z and my onboard audio is night and day in all applications.



Xen said:
sethnintendo said:

I could have sworn on the sound settings in Windows XP you could click on advance options and change your equalizer that way.  I forgot about Realtek which I quickly change my equalizer to rock.  Just seems like it was easier to tweak the sound settings in XP without having to go to another program.

Memory says to me: such a thing existed, I remember it.

But google doesn't find it, so perhaps it's some simple side utility that just integrated itself into the WXP shell.

I took the liberty to boot up my XP machine that I use for old games like Diablo 1/2, Starcraft, etc... and I'm not finding it.  Perhaps I was remembering wrong or perhaps I was remembering winamp or some other program that did it easily.

Under options on the Master Volume there is Advanced Controls but for some reason it is not bold (you can't click on it).



If your audio is realtek you should have the Realtek HD audio manager which has an equalizer, can't think why it wouldn't be there unless the vendor uninstalled it (though there is no reason for them to do that).

If you go to the old style control panel (not the new settings app) it should be there, or check programs & features.... if it's not there at all you can probably download it from somewhere.