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I need to open myself with somebody, and this is going to be you, VGChartz. 

Brazil wasn't know for being a geek heaven, extremely overpriced gadgets and lack of a good internet infrastructure, and combining it with the fact that our salaries aren't that great and we have a terrible scenario for technology lovers like me. 

But than things start improving, and fast. We had a Telecom company called GVT that had a great campaign on pushing internet speeds highers and prices down, they alone made brazillian internet very good, with reasonable prices, excellent quality and high connection speeds. But, now other company called Vivo bought it and they are already destroying everything GVT built, prices are getting high, many consumers are complaining about the quality of service and consumer support really dropped and they are putting ridiculous Data Caps. If a person pays for a 100 mb connection and is only allowed 200 gb per month it's a bad joke, in a world of downloading Steam games, online play and 4k streaming this isn't nothing. 

Gadget wise things started improving too, with new incentives from the government and exchange rates of USD and Dollar being lower prices started to decline aggressively for both computers,  smartphones, televisions and etc. But from 2013 and onwards prices started to hike again and in a horrendous rate. iPhone releases went from costing 2000 BRL in 2012 to costing 3899 BRL in 2015. Computer hardware also saw and extreme hike in prices, to the point of surpassing Moore's law. The Studio XPS 15 I bought in 2012 for 4000 BRL isn't going to be replaced anytime soon, since prices went up so ridiculously that a laptop with similar configuration nowadays is even more expensive... 

Living in this country is extremely frustrating unless you are in the 5% richest. 



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I know your feel bro.

Isso aqui já virou palhaçada, só falta distribuírem os narizes pra gente.



Why don't you move to another country?

Besides, you are confusing gadets with technology. I'm brazillian too, and being pretty honest, i don't recall ever doing something about it. And i'm not about voting for someone, this is mostly irrelevant, i'm talking about actuallly chasing all these missed opportunitties, you know? If no one in the market is providing cheap and good internet, why don't I put up a company to do that? If importing gadget here is expensive, it mean that if i porduce here and export, exchange rate will be really favorable.

I'm not better than the people in here that favour a system of blaming someone intead of taking responsabilities. And everyone in a country does that, this is the result.

 

BTW: ellon musk, ceo of tesla, is south african native, so  i think the place you being born don't determine how far you can go.



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justiceiro said:

Why don't you move to another country?

Besides, you are confusing gadets with technology. I'm brazillian too, and being pretty honest, i don't recall ever doing something about it. And i'm not about voting for someone, this is mostly irrelevant, i'm talking about actuallly chasing all these missed opportunitties, you know? If no one in the market is providing cheap and good internet, why don't I put up a company to do that? If importing gadget here is expensive, it mean that if i porduce here and export, exchange rate will be really favorable.

I'm not better than the people in here that favour a system of blaming someone intead of taking responsabilities. And everyone in a country does that, this is the result.

 

BTW: ellon musk, ceo of tesla, is south african native, so  i think the place you being born don't determine how far you can go.

I was focusing on consumer technology. But your speech of do something is really deluded. Whitout any kind of investment it's just impossible to do anything, with the structure we have to face to even open an small neighborhood shop opening an internet company would requires millions. It's something that go way beyond our reach of acting, things in Brazil are horribly expensive and even more when compared wirh the mediun income, and it's with everything, from the very basic things like food, electricity and housing to smartphones. Going to another country is my dream, but it is also something that isn't going to happen so soon, if it were for my wish I would be living in France for decades now. 



Datacap is norm outside Brazil, and you can try to use other companies, besides 200Gb is nothing shy...

But the guilty is on ANATEL limiting the market soo much



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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I also heard that the gaming industry is actively denying the Brazilian people even simple things like Legend of Dragoon sequels. The world really has it in for Brazilians.



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invetedlotus123 said:
justiceiro said:

Why don't you move to another country?

Besides, you are confusing gadets with technology. I'm brazillian too, and being pretty honest, i don't recall ever doing something about it. And i'm not about voting for someone, this is mostly irrelevant, i'm talking about actuallly chasing all these missed opportunitties, you know? If no one in the market is providing cheap and good internet, why don't I put up a company to do that? If importing gadget here is expensive, it mean that if i porduce here and export, exchange rate will be really favorable.

I'm not better than the people in here that favour a system of blaming someone intead of taking responsabilities. And everyone in a country does that, this is the result.

 

BTW: ellon musk, ceo of tesla, is south african native, so  i think the place you being born don't determine how far you can go.

I was focusing on consumer technology. But your speech of do something is really deluded. Whitout any kind of investment it's just impossible to do anything, with the structure we have to face to even open an small neighborhood shop opening an internet company would requires millions. It's something that go way beyond our reach of acting, things in Brazil are horribly expensive and even more when compared wirh the mediun income, and it's with everything, from the very basic things like food, electricity and housing to smartphones. Going to another country is my dream, but it is also something that isn't going to happen so soon, if it were for my wish I would be living in France for decades now. 

You should access meusucesso.com starting a company of your dreams and providing a market necessity doesn't need millions from your pocket.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

The blame is ours?

The brazilian government tax rape all medium companys, thats why theres no fair market for tec products, everything has to be imported at 40% only to cover taxes, if you add the profit margin the final cost gets astronomical. Brazilian society is at a loop: corrupt politics incourages people ignorrance that elects corrupt politics. Recent events(impeachment and all) shows that the people is getting less ignorant but there is too much room to improve.  If someday we achieve a economy whith less taxes (for this to happen we have to erradicate grand scale corruption) tec products would be far more accessible for everybody.

About Elon Musk, i have to brake it tou you but hes a big time con man, just like the infamous Eike batista. Both have/had dark business whith the government and theirs companys are built on hype. If you take Tesla, theres no car being built/sold so no profit being made, and the stock price is higher than companys like hyundai, ford etc. How come a company that has just promisses AND DONT MAKE ANY PROFIT can be more stock valuable than companys that are profitable for years? The answer is that elon musk companys are built to con the market to the sole purpose of make profit whith stock prices. A lot of people that real understand economy say this things im saying, if you wanna see for yourself just make a internet research.

Brazil is a very dificult place to live, in this country our work is worth far less than in developed countries. After i finish colege ill defenitely try to move! 



Prices have always been crazy in Brazil I thought when it comes to electronics. Things were improving like you stated but I believe your government is going through a downturn right now for the past couple of years. Probably why exchange rates are now not going in your favor.



BHeletrica said:

How come a company that has just promisses AND DONT MAKE ANY PROFIT can be more stock valuable than companys that are profitable for years?

Just look at Amazon for your question.  Amazon for years didn't make any profit.  It is the potential that inflates these stocks of companies that can't pull in profit.  Sometimes that potential is finally realized as not being there (Twitter stock has tanked pretty much since its IPO).  I see your point that some companies should never be valued more than others (Telsa shouldn't be more than Ford) but there is nothing stopping these investors from shooting themselves in the foot for trying to jump onto an inflated bubble.