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ArchangelMadzz said:
LivingMetal said:

There is never a good time to have a kid, and you are never ready for it.  You make it work, you just do.  That's just the way it is.  Anything else is just inhuman.  As a parent of a 5 year old, I wish I had started having kids 20 years ago so I can spend that much more time with them.  There is always something else we can strive for in life and always make excuses to not have or care for a child.  And with that mindset, it doesn't matter whether or not that child is legally born because it carries through unless there is a change of heart. The true recipe for success is raising that child to be better than you, not what you personally and selffishly want in life.  Any good parent will put their child before themselves.  Otherwise, that parent or potential parent deserves the same neglect he or she is giving that child.

Of course there are good times to have a kid, you're never ready but there are better situations than others.

A 27 year old couple with their life sorted is better than a 16 year old schoolgirl having a kid with her weird 20 year old boyfriend. (hypothetically speaking).

This is not true.

Raising a child does not work that way. Yes, you can stop time, consider the child a simple variable and compare the circumstances and run with it. You cannot however stop time in real world and the child is not a simple variable but infinite. The optimal enviroment for raising a child cannot be subjectively defined. It is not uncommon that couples divorce and go their separate ways after a child is born. Some couples just cannot get over the troubles no matter how rosy their life was prior. What matters is what will happen after the child is born. Talk is cheap, actions count.



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ArchangelMadzz said:

WAIT. Halt the congratulations, there's no congratulations to be had here.

So, basically back in late July I slept with this girl (Omg a VGchartzer actually having relations?)

Anyway, she forgot to take her pill and now she's pregnant. Woohoo, anyway. So She's known for a few days and only brought it to my attention 2 hours ago and I'm a little bit jarred, well A fucking fuck tonne jarred. 

We have been friends for a little while and just decided to have sex because well, I'm male she's female and we have needs, one time done and dusted. She's 20 I'm 21.  

Now, I've just started college again the UK doing an applied science and medical science course in the hopes of going to university and spending 3 years there, but now I highly doubt I'll be able to do that and get my future and life sorted out because of this. My main concern is I don't see why she would want to have a child with me, why she would think it's a good idea that 2, 21 year old friends should raise a human being. The idea of having me as my dad would terrify me. 

So we're currently talking and she agrees that it would ruin my life and it's not ideal at all, but is still considering to where she's at 60 for keeping and 40 for getting rid of it. 

I don't want to pressure her into any decision I've only just made my case, she says she wouldn't blame me for leaving but there's NO WAY that after not growing up without a father I would have my child do the same, if she keeps it I will be there 24/7. 

I'm just confused and frustrated and needed to vent to the one and only forum that I visit, thoughts?

Updates: (bolding the most recent)
I am pulling for the abortion angle, but I don't want to pressure her into the decision.

The main pro about abortion is that if you decide later to have a child you can, at any time. If you have the child and regret it that's pretty much it. 

She acknowledges that we shouldn't have the child, and that it would ruin my future prospects and 2 friends who have no emotional attachment shouldn't be in charge of a human being as that's not good for anyone.

But she's still unsure on what she wants to do, so I'll probably get back to this in a few days.

11/9/16

She came over today and we discussed things for about 4 hours.
She's booking the appointment tomorrow to go to the Abortion clinic. 
But, I informed her of course if she ever wants to back out at any point she can.

12/9/16

Through circumstances that I wont repeat for privacy (ironic seeing this thread exists) and just because even if I explained I wouldn't be believed and it would be considered a troll. 
It seems as though it is rather unlikely that the child will be carried to term and will know by Wednesday.

13/9/16

Wont go into too much detail, complications. No longer happening, questioning whether it was even real in the first place, but I'll leave my suspicions to myself and not bring it up to her.

Well, as an older gent, I waited a real long time for marrage and child, and now have had a child 7 1/2 year old. Ya just don't know untill you have a child how much of a love you will have for that person. I would kill for her and that's about it. Wife, Mom, Dad, Brother Sis, friend just do not compare, it's kinda crazy and hard to explain to anyone with out a child. I would have made a terrible father at 21 and probably would be doing the same thing as you. But if I had to I'm sure  after having my daughter, I would never forget about that time when I was 20 for the rest of my life.

It can be done school, child, etc it's just going to be fucking a little harder.



So wait, you mean that it may have just been a mistake? Wow. You know I kind of wonder if she was just lying for some percualr reason... But ahhh, at least you got what you wanted.



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WC4Life said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

Of course there are good times to have a kid, you're never ready but there are better situations than others.

A 27 year old couple with their life sorted is better than a 16 year old schoolgirl having a kid with her weird 20 year old boyfriend. (hypothetically speaking).

This is not true.

Raising a child does not work that way. Yes, you can stop time, consider the child a simple variable and compare the circumstances and run with it. You cannot however stop time in real world and the child is not a simple variable but infinite. The optimal enviroment for raising a child cannot be subjectively defined. It is not uncommon that couples divorce and go their separate ways after a child is born. Some couples just cannot get over the troubles no matter how rosy their life was prior. What matters is what will happen after the child is born. Talk is cheap, actions count.

I don't know.  Wouldn't being better off financially be almost a universal leg up when having a child?  It can let you focus on raising the child rather than just surviving and possibly neglecting him/her as you try to make ends meet with multiple jobs or crappy 3rd shift jobs that don't pay enough.



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LMU Uncle Alfred said:

I don't know.  Wouldn't being better off financially be almost a universal leg up when having a child?  It can let you focus on raising the child rather than just surviving and possibly neglecting him/her as you try to make ends meet with multiple jobs or crappy 3rd shift jobs that don't pay enough.

There's no pricetag for happiness. Are millionaires better parents? If I make 60k a year am I better raising my children than my neighbor who makes 40k? Where do you draw the line, is 15k a shit tier where there is no hope? Does pocket full of cash mean the parent has better ability to understand the needs of his/her child?

It is an arrogant assumption, where being financially weaker means automatically neglecting the child. If we go by that logic, the majority of the world is mistreating their children. There is a lot of families who cannot afford a PS4, does that mean they are bad parents or that their children live a miserable life?

You might have all the money but still, what does that matter if both of the parents happen to die in a car accident? How do the better circumstances at Day 0 work out in the end? A doctor can call you and tell you will lose your vision, or tell you have cancer, or you have Parkinson? Nothing is guaranteed.

Years and years, it has been a common phrase, money does not bring happiness but suddenly it is the x-factor. People can count on money, I never will, never did, found my own way.

edit: bad english, I guess



I cannot imagine toilet-free life.

Kebabs have a unique attribute compared to other consumables. To unlock this effect you need to wolf down a big ass kebab really fast, like under 10 minutes or so and wait for the effect to kick in. If done correctly your movements should feel unbelievably heavy to the point where you literally cannot move at all.

-Downtown Alanya Kebab magazine issue no.198

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WC4Life said:
LMU Uncle Alfred said:

I don't know.  Wouldn't being better off financially be almost a universal leg up when having a child?  It can let you focus on raising the child rather than just surviving and possibly neglecting him/her as you try to make ends meet with multiple jobs or crappy 3rd shift jobs that don't pay enough.

There's no pricetag for happiness. Are millionaires better parents? If I make 60k a year am I better raising my children than my neighbor who makes 40k? Where do you draw the line, is 15k a shit tier where there is no hope? Does pocket full of cash mean the parent has better ability to understand the needs of his/her child?

It is an arrogant assumption, where being financially weaker means automatically neglecting the child. If we go by that logic, the majority of the world is mistreating their children. There is a lot of families who cannot afford a PS4, does that mean they are bad parents or that their children live a miserable life?

You might have all the money but still, what does that matter if both of the parents happen to die in a car accident? How do the better circumstances at Day 0 work out in the end? A doctor can call you and tell you will lose your vision, or tell you have cancer, or you have Parkinson? Nothing is guaranteed.

Years and years, it has been a common phrase, money does not bring happiness but suddenly it is the x-factor. People can count on money, I never will, never did, found my own way.

edit: bad english, I guess

Nothing is indeed guaranteed, but it is absolutely ridiculous to live by that notion and never consider your options. You can always weigh one situation against another and come to a good prediction, an educated guess, a decent estimation. If I bring my umbrella, I will most likely be protected by the rain. Working to reduce risks and trying to be prepared is not unrealistic, nor is it too much to ask for.

Obviously cases differ from eachother, but to just throw everything out because one comparison is unfair to another is silly.



Ucouldntbemorewrong said:

Well, as an older gent, I waited a real long time for marrage and child, and now have had a child 7 1/2 year old. Ya just don't know untill you have a child how much of a love you will have for that person. I would kill for her and that's about it. Wife, Mom, Dad, Brother Sis, friend just do not compare, it's kinda crazy and hard to explain to anyone with out a child. I would have made a terrible father at 21 and probably would be doing the same thing as you. But if I had to I'm sure  after having my daughter, I would never forget about that time when I was 20 for the rest of my life.

It can be done school, child, etc it's just going to be fucking a little harder.

https://www.wired.com/2014/07/how-becoming-a-father-changes-your-brain/
http://www.todaysparent.com/blogs/on-our-minds/science-confirms-it-motherhood-changes-your-brain/
This might explain some of it :)
Its a tricky situation, regardless.



barneystinson69 said:

So wait, you mean that it may have just been a mistake? Wow. You know I kind of wonder if she was just lying for some percualr reason... But ahhh, at least you got what you wanted.

Dude you don't even know the half of it.

I'll explain once I fully know, but she's lied about at least 50% of this entire situation.



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ArchangelMadzz said:

13/9/16

Wont go into too much detail, complications. No longer happening, questioning whether it was even real in the first place, but I'll leave my suspicions to myself and not bring it up to her.

I am happy that you solved the situation. The lesson is: never ever ever ever trust a girl when she says she is on the pill.



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Oh wow. Sounds pretty sketchy. I hope she didn't fabricate this whole thing for ???? reason(s). Good news though overall though.



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