Which will then be answered in 2020 with a new XBox. 

Which is fine, but it basically does render the old generation model of game consoles effectively moot. It takes developers at least a year to get used to new hardware, realistically it's even more than that these days, shortening the console cycle to half (3 years instead of 6), basically is going to create a development state where developers are just constantly making one game at 5-6 different settings and never really maxing out the higher end hardware because they still need to sell to the older models ... which is basically a PC environment. 

The old generation model was probably due to be extinct anyway because it wasn't realistic to expect developers to tackle a monstrous graphical leap every 5-6 years ... such leaps incur huge leaps in development costs and look at all the developers that have gone bankrupt the last 5-10 years. That concept slowing down and being phased into generational "leaps" that are more frequent, but far less noticable was likely always going to happen.

Actually the 360 did run a lot of multiplats better last gen. 

I have a lot of dudebros/Calladooty buddies (not my cup of tea, but they love it), they all swear the 360 is better than the PS3 graphically, I remember I tried to tell them that the CELL chip was more advanced in many ways, Uncharted 2/3 looks great, etc. etc. but they weren't hearing it, lol. Wouldn't believe a word of it.

Whether it's even factual or not until this generation MS had convinced a lot of people that XBox had the better third party experience. (The O.G. XBox was clearly better than the PS2). 

When the XBox brand loses that prestige, it loses most of its appeal. The XBox's job is to be the "challenger" to the Playstation brand, well it's not much of a challenge if you're weaker from day 1. MS needs parity at minimum, and an advantage (clear one) would be quite desirable. 

Everyone keeps saying its performance that matters.
Its not, its "perceived value".

Wii u = 176 gflops , PS4 = 1,84 teraflops. (1840 gflops) (10 times the power of the Wii u)

Price? both are 299$.

Scorpio needs to be competitive in price too.
If its 40% stronger than the PS4 Pro, it needs to aim for max 40% higher price.
By the time the Scorpio is out, PS4 Pro will have gotten a 50$ price cut.

Scorpio will live or die by the price its released at imo.
It cant launch at more than 499$ and do well vs the PS4 Pro.

And even if it ends up popular (the scorpio) the 1 year headstart of the PS4 Pro, will play a part.

I dont think Sony need to do anything to compete with the scorpio.

The Scorpio isnt even competeing with the PS4 Pro, for more than a year.

It'll be $399.99. Remove that stupid Kinect and that's like $100 off their budget right there for starters.

4 years in tech cycles is a huge amount of time, that's the difference between an N64 (1996) and Playstation 2 (2000) or XBox (2001) and XBox 360 (2005). 

For $399.99, 6+ TFLOP GPU (Polaris 11 custom), a way better CPU than Jaguar, and 12-16GB of RAM should be doable. To be honest I think they could push that GPU performance a bit. 

A 2017 phone has like 20x the performance of a 2013 phone, expecting CPU/GPU tech to remain that stagnant is silly, there are phones/tablets today with a better CPU than the XBox One/PS4. 

No, we'd be entering PlayStation console fatigue if they released PS5 next year to compete with Scorpio.

When the Scorpio exists Sony will compete with it. Until then there's nothing to compete with, just numbers on a piece of paper. Can the Scorpio compete with the PS5? Sony have a piece of paper too.

@ Soundwave

I guess we ll know late 2017 / early 2018, how MS choose to price it.
However the console bussiness isnt the same as the Console one, I doubt just releaseing a year lateron, allows you to "magically" get things that much down in price.

Lmao.... Imagine Sony announces the PS5, 1 year or more in advance like MS did the scorpio :p

Forums could have people saying "dont buy a scorpio its a waste! next year Sonys PS5 will have this and that spec's"

Just like how people are now saying that for the scorpio.

This is actually a good point.

There's absolutely no point, it's a mid gen upgrade for both and it just so happens Microsoft have made more powerful upgrade. But it counts for nothing. Games sell consoles especially Exclusive games and Sony has got 21 million more potential sales for devs and publishers than what Microsoft have, so its Sony that's will still be more likely to get exclusives and more importantly not miss out on games.

Betime Scorpion comes out Sony will more than likely have 30 million more potential sales for devs so they will be even more reluctant to make games exclusive for microsfts console. The power difference means nothing.

What you're really asking for is console makers to be on a release schedule similar to mobile. Every year = new high end device with dive 3 to 4 years old being deprecated.

I've pitched this was the way of consoles for quite sometime. I think NX is the last time we'll see a big hardware change. I also think scorpio and ps4pro both prove that point.