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Soundwave on 10 September 2016
sethnintendo said:
Soundwave said:

Kinda like saying someone should be ashamed of themselves for getting hit by a tsunami. 

Mobile revolution has changed the world, just like television and the internet did. It is one of those things that happens maybe every 30 years where some technology changes human civilization basically. 

3DS/Vita never had a prayer of not being massively impacted. 

His kids first game machine should have been a NES and the first game played Super Mario Bros.  D pad is far superior for controlling a platform game.  I'm sorry I don't give a shit how popular somethings become.  Sometimes there are just better options in life and the better option this time is actually cheaper.

He's talking about kids of today. Though for his own kids Miyamoto during the N64-era (mid/late 90s) Miyamoto admitted his kids played Playstation, lol. His kids are adults now. 



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KLXVER on 10 September 2016
UltimateUnknown said:
KLXVER said:

Its not like Mario Run would have been made on the 3DS or WiiU if Nintendo decided not to enter the mobile market. Its just a simple title to get people interested in the franchise. If the next Mario game for the NX is also being released on mobiles, then I would start worrying.

Fair enough. I agree that at this point it's is a wait and see game. I just can't help but wonder what Nintendo will be thinking a few years down the road if most of their big franchises are runaway successes and money printing machines on mobile like Pokemon Go, especially if NX doesn't sell that well and the software on it barely makes them much profit with all the hard work put into them compared to mobile where games are so much simpler to make both financially and technically. With they feel so inclined to invest big on console titles when they've tasted the massive easy money on mobile?

Nintendo unlike other developers on mobile already has generations worth of brand recognition to easily have their titles be noticed on smartphones, so they're not going to get lost in the shuffle of the mobile market that most small developers succumb to.

Nintendo is in this industry for the long run. It might seem like mobiles is the big thing for them right now, but if they keep on doing smaller and easy to make games for it and stop making the bigger games, then their franchises will suffer. I just dont see a company with that kind of talent and legacy throwing it all away for a few years of some big bucks.



Airaku on 10 September 2016

Hopefully learns that while kids are flocking to mobile, more mature gamers are flocking to the consoles. Maybe that's part of why the Wii U isn't doing very well? They are clueslessly marketing to a dying user base.




burninmylight on 11 September 2016
Soundwave said:
Slimebeast said:

Damn it. Sounds plausible then.

It's just not because I dislike Android, it's also because as a classic company I want Nintendo to feel unique and exclusive (and I don't like this Mario release on smartphone at all). They should not dilute their brand name too much. But perhaps a custom version of the Android app store won't do that, I'm not sure.

Now that I think about it, what arguments, besides pure emoptional, are there for Nintendo to not implement an extrenal app store like Android's?

I think the OS will still be pretty much custom Nintendo, but there will be some kind of way for existing apps to be implimented into either natively right off the hop or a very, very simple porting process. 

You'll go into your Nintendo eShop on NX and see "NX Games", "Apps/Games", "Virtual Console/HH" categories. I think it'll just be that simple. Click on the Apps section and you can download things like Angry Birds or Final Fantasy VII or Real Racing 3 and play. 

Blackberry has a phone that uses their Blackberry OS, but can load games from Amazon's Android store (so Android apps basically work on it). I guess Nintenod could do something like that, only cut out Amazon obviously. 

There are some pretty decent mobile games too ... I wouldn't mind playing some of those Square-Enix iOS/Android games with physical controls.

You're talking about the Blackberry Classic. I have that phone (Blackberry 4 Lyfe!); RIM essentially made the Blackberry 10 OS an Android fork that can run (almost) all Android apps, and it was one of the few good ideas it had in the last few years, because the Blackberry App World has been dead for more than half a decade. This is why I've always agreed that Nintendo would be wise to follow a similar path. This way, it gives its customers to thousands of apps right from Day 1, and no more waiting years after everyone else to finally get the most basic things everyone else takes for granted, like Amazon, Hulu, Crunchyroll, and all the other stuff you take for granted on every other device.



burninmylight on 11 September 2016
maxleresistant said:
KLXVER said:

Well I wouldnt say the Zelda games have been dumbed down.

Most of the games came back to the way they were in the 90's. And mainly they are not in par with what is done in gaming nowadays.

Mario 3D world  and New Super mario are dumbed down in comparison to 64/sunshine/galaxy
Starfox Zero, went back to Starfox 64, and forgot the improvements made in assault.

Skyward Sword, Zelda Triforce heroes

Metroid Other M threw out the exploration, then we got Federation Forces.

Mario Tennis Ultra Smash...

I can think of only two games that really improved on their formula or at least were as good, Mario Kart 8 (thanks to cheap DLC and 200cc mode) and Pikmin 3.

Otherwise, everything else was inferior, dumbed down, made cuter. Nintendo clearly isn't moving forward, they are just trying to use the nostalgia factor, and make everything have a broader appeal.

But like I said, when you try to make all your games for everyone, you're not making games for anyone. Evertyhing feels diluted, flavorless.

Mario 3D World is in no way dumbed down compared to those other games. It was made with multiplayer in mind, so the gameplay and design reflect that.

SFZ going back to SF64 and ignoring Assault is a huge point in its favor.

If Fi would just leave you the hell alone in Skyward Sword, it would be remembered much more fondly. The gameplay itself wasn't dumbed down at all, and it introduced welcome mechanics like upgradable weapons and equipment. Haven't played Triforce Heroes.

Can't argue with MOM and Ultra Smash. The latter was an utter abomination.

In making this list, you left out the biggest offender: Paper Mario. I guess that wasn't from the 90's though.



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Miyamotoo on 12 September 2016

Offcourse, smart move from Nintendo, Pokemon GO showed that is good plan (beacuse after Pokemon GO is launched sales of 3DS and Pokemon games were higher).