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Zkuq said:
JRPGfan said:

What do you think about this? 399$ vs PC probably 1500$ or so.

If you're paying $1500 for a PC, you're either doing it wrong or doing it with pleasure. You can get a perfectly fine gaming PC for much less than that, which means that either you're stupid to pay that much, or you're an enthusiast to whom it's worth the price.

Also, as you already seem to know the answer to your question, this seems like another provocation using the (incomplete) price argument. Your argument is incomplete because it only takes into account the initial cost, whereas the whole thing is actually much more complicated than that. My point? Your price comparison is, in my opinion, pretty much useless because it's so naive, so it doesn't make much sense to even make the comparison.

I ll bite this bait...

You dont want your PC hooked up to your liveing room TV, like you could with a console.

So you d need a 4k monitor.

 

4k monitor about 300-500$.

Nvidia 1070 to run high-very high settings in tomb raider @4k = 450$

Intel i7-6700k about 350$

LGA 1151 motherboard 100$

...

..

ram,mouse,keyboard,case,psu,cpu cooler,hdd,blu-ray drive,speakers,..... and windows 10.

= probably over 1500$ right?

 

But hey atleast it can do native 4k then.

 

"You can get a perfectly fine gaming PC for much less than that, which means that either you're stupid to pay that much, or you're an enthusiast to whom it's worth the price."

Perfectly fine isnt the point, the point was doing it better than the PS4 pro.

By doing it better I assumed you ment "real" 4k natively.

To do that you ll need a expensive PC.

 

My point was the PS4 pro for 399$ does ALOT for its price.



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Ok. I used to think i had perfect vision but now i accept i probably don't cause i honestly cant tell a difference. Only difference i see is that the background on the pro is sharper than on The pc but im guessing hat has to do with some form of DoF implementation.

If anyone has to zoom in to see a difference then I think the case for the PS4pro has been made.

I've said this before, where we are at now it's going to become increasingly difficult (or even nitpicky) to point out a difference between hardware. I can't wait for the Pro to be in the wild and then we can start seeing proper comparisons.



If this is not another fake video (hardly the case), then it's a pretty strong case for the Pro. Basically you're getting pretty close to the 4K visual of the game on a PC where just the GPU costs almost as much as the Pro.

I just question which advantages the Pro brings to 1080p TVs. Maybe downscalling to simulate a super AA?



JRPGfan said:
Zkuq said:

If you're paying $1500 for a PC, you're either doing it wrong or doing it with pleasure. You can get a perfectly fine gaming PC for much less than that, which means that either you're stupid to pay that much, or you're an enthusiast to whom it's worth the price.

Also, as you already seem to know the answer to your question, this seems like another provocation using the (incomplete) price argument. Your argument is incomplete because it only takes into account the initial cost, whereas the whole thing is actually much more complicated than that. My point? Your price comparison is, in my opinion, pretty much useless because it's so naive, so it doesn't make much sense to even make the comparison.

I ll bite this bait...

You dont want your PC hooked up to your liveing room TV, like you could with a console.

So you d need a 4k monitor.

 

4k monitor about 300-500$.

Nvidia 1070 to run high-very high settings in tomb raider @4k = 450$

Intel i7-6700k about 350$

LGA 1151 motherboard 100$

...

..

ram,mouse,keyboard,case,psu,cpu cooler,hdd,blu-ray drive,speakers,..... and windows 10.

= probably over 1500$ right?

 

But hey atleast it can do native 4k then.

 

"You can get a perfectly fine gaming PC for much less than that, which means that either you're stupid to pay that much, or you're an enthusiast to whom it's worth the price."

Perfectly fine isnt the point, the point was doing it better than the PS4 pro.

By doing it better I assumed you ment "real" 4k natively.

To do that you ll need a expensive PC.

 

My point was the PS4 pro for 399$ does ALOT for its price.

Wait so why do you need an i7 and why can't you hook up the PC to the living room?

I feel like one can prove that ps4 does a lot against PC without making odd decisions in PC specs or saying someone doesn't want to cause it is a perference thing imo.



             

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JRPGfan said:
Zkuq said:

If you're paying $1500 for a PC, you're either doing it wrong or doing it with pleasure. You can get a perfectly fine gaming PC for much less than that, which means that either you're stupid to pay that much, or you're an enthusiast to whom it's worth the price.

Also, as you already seem to know the answer to your question, this seems like another provocation using the (incomplete) price argument. Your argument is incomplete because it only takes into account the initial cost, whereas the whole thing is actually much more complicated than that. My point? Your price comparison is, in my opinion, pretty much useless because it's so naive, so it doesn't make much sense to even make the comparison.

I ll bite this bait...

You dont want your PC hooked up to your liveing room TV, like you could with a console.

So you d need a 4k monitor.

 

4k monitor about 300-500$.

Nvidia 1070 to run high-very high settings in tomb raider @4k = 450$

Intel i7-6700k about 350$

LGA 1151 motherboard 100$

...

..

ram,mouse,keyboard,case,psu,cpu cooler,hdd,blu-ray drive,speakers,..... and windows 10.

= probably over 1500$ right?

 

But hey atleast it can do native 4k then.

 

"You can get a perfectly fine gaming PC for much less than that, which means that either you're stupid to pay that much, or you're an enthusiast to whom it's worth the price."

Perfectly fine isnt the point, the point was doing it better than the PS4 pro.

By doing it better I assumed you ment "real" 4k natively.

To do that you ll need a expensive PC.

 

My point was the PS4 pro for 399$ does ALOT for its price.

So in your example you need to buy a monitor for 4k, but the PS4Pro doesn't need a 4k TV.

Fair comparisons assume you either need to buy both, or you own both, or you use both on same display.

A 4k TV with certified HDR is going to set you back probably $800 min. 

While were at it, why don't we say you need to buy a computer desk and chair and the PS4 Pro needs to buy a comfy couch. 



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irstupid said:
JRPGfan said:

So in your example you need to buy a monitor for 4k, but the PS4Pro doesn't need a 4k TV.

Fair comparisons assume you either need to buy both, or you own both, or you use both on same display.

A 4k TV with certified HDR is going to set you back probably $800 min. 

While were at it, why don't we say you need to buy a computer desk and chair and the PS4 Pro needs to buy a comfy couch. 

Im assumeing people have a 4k TV or want one anyways. So yeah ignoreing that part of the cost equation.

Thats probably not fair though, but even if you ignore that cost, it ll probably still end up over 1500$.



JRPGfan said:
Angelv577 said:
I am more interested in seeing the ps4 pro version vs the xb1 version

That can be done.

Xbox One:   http://cdn.segmentnext.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/rise-of-te-romb-raider-1.png

PS4 Pro:  http://images.gamersyde.com/image_rise_of_the_tomb_raider_20_year_celebration-32969-3661_0002.jpg

 

I suggest opening both links up, and compaireing them.

Try and zoom in on the face with both versions.

Thanks.  



JRPGfan said:
irstupid said:

So in your example you need to buy a monitor for 4k, but the PS4Pro doesn't need a 4k TV.

Fair comparisons assume you either need to buy both, or you own both, or you use both on same display.

A 4k TV with certified HDR is going to set you back probably $800 min. 

While were at it, why don't we say you need to buy a computer desk and chair and the PS4 Pro needs to buy a comfy couch. 

Im assumeing people have a 4k TV or want one anyways. So yeah ignoreing that part of the cost equation.

Thats probably not fair though, but even if you ignore that cost, it ll probably still end up over 1500$.

Ok, then how about assuming someone may need a computer at home for work or other personal reasons anyway. So you should ignore the first costs of the PC then. Saying an average PC costs $400 or something. Then you shoudl only factor in anything above that $400, since the $400 is a NEED and would be getting spent anyway. 

I'm not trying to say a PC can cost effective fight with PS4 PRo. I'm just annoyed with people when they try to say PC gaming is so expensive, they do it by adding in cost of some Monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers, and other periphials and yet completely ignore them for consoles saying "you have those already" Oh and I don't already have a monitor, keyboard, controllers or use my tv with pc. Thos factors shoudl not be counted.

Stick a PS4 in a room with nothing in it and it's just as worhtless as a pc tower in a room with nothing in it. They both require a display, both require sound of some sort. Those are costs. They may be new costs, they may not be. 



irstupid said:
 

So in your example you need to buy a monitor for 4k, but the PS4Pro doesn't need a 4k TV.

Fair comparisons assume you either need to buy both, or you own both, or you use both on same display.

A 4k TV with certified HDR is going to set you back probably $800 min. 

While were at it, why don't we say you need to buy a computer desk and chair and the PS4 Pro needs to buy a comfy couch. 

While I don't think we should count the monitor, his reasoning is probably that a PC monitor only has use in the computer, while the TV is something that you already have to buy anyway, even if you have a PC. Even without the monitor, the pricing difference is still pretty big. Getting 4K or close to it by 400 bucks is a killer value. I dumped close to it on a 970 1 year ago and it isn't touching this kind of resolutions since it struggles with 1440p.

1500$ is somewhat exagerated. But more than 1K without a monitor is a given if you are going with a 1070, so the 399 price of the Pro is pretty good. I can't see why someone would even grab a Slim with the Pro being so cheap.

PC gaming has a lot of strong points, but price isn't one of this. I've expent a lot in hardware and my PS+ subs and the price of games are not going to compensate it. Also mind that a lot of people sell their physical games after finishing them and you can also buy pre-owned, trade games with friends or rent shorter games.



The light looks as intended by the developer on the PS4 Pro.

Look at the PC version, that is not how light propagates, specially when there are other external light sources. The brighter artificial source should have a stronger effect than the natural light on both the character and the environment.

She is holding that neon type of light right next to her face and you can barely see the range of light on PC.

Apparently the PS4 Pro is coming with some extra tools that will help developers handle light in a more realistic way.