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superchunk on 07 September 2016
Teeqoz said:

Your reccomendations don't show anything. Yes, the Iphone, which sells about 50 million units per quarter, or 200 million per year, vs the PS4s 15-20 million per year, got more attention. This would have happened regardless of which day the Apple conference was on. The Sony meeting (not even a conference) wouldn't have gotten a bazillion stories in the press regardless of which day it was on. PS4 news = interesting to a small part of the population. Iphone news = interesting to a huge part of the population. Wether Sony's meeting was today or in a week or a week ago wouldn't have changed jack shit. The announcement of the PS4Pro, which wasn't even surprising, as it has been heavily rumoured since april (so much so that we got the precise spec sheet back then) wasn't going to light the tech press on fire so that each outlet would write 2 stories (each) about how the PS4 Pro has one extra USB port or whatever. This is why your conclusion makes no sense. You assume that it would've been different to a notable degree had the dates been changed.

 

Burden of proof lies on you, as you are the one making a claim. So you have to show the data suggesting you were right. We can't prove a negative. You might as well ask us to give you data disproving that there is an invisible teapot with all the lottery numbers ever written on it, flying around earth. Shocker, you can't! Doesn't mean that said teapot is real.

1) Sony made this event before Apple annouced theirs and Sony definitely planned on having non-Gaming media spread the word.

2) Had Apple not had an event, every tech segment would have mentioned PS4 Pro and Slim. That is self-evident and obvious with historical context I have no desire to pull out if you really don't think that is true.

3) bolded - I provided data in this thread already from news.google.com. How about to massive US news...

CNN tech page is frankly out of date.. seriously. But there is one article suggesting a new iphone and nothing on Sony. Rest of page is for random stuff, samsung batter recall is top report. Otherwise Tesla news and other gadgets. wtf cnn late to the party.

CNN home page actually has one article for both, iphone7 and ps4. Not sure what's up with their tech page.

Fox News tech page has 11 stories on front page. Top news is Apple. 6 of 11 overall are on iphone7, 1 is on ps4, rest are on other random stories.

BBC News (EU viewpoint) has 12 stories on front page. Top news is Apple. 2 are Sony (including decent question on if pro is generational leap or not), 1 Apple iphone7, 1 apple tax thing, and rest or other random stuffs such as brazzers hack and russian satellite hack.

The Verge (tech site) has 7 top stories. 5 are Apple and 2 are Sony.

CNET (tech news site) has 13 front page stories. 4 are iphone 7, 1 is Nintendo SMR, 1 is PS4Pro, remaining for are random stuff including the brazzers hack.

Slashdot (news for nerds) front page had 3 apple and 1 sony.

My local Phoenix (top 10 city in US by population) news... 

http://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/hot-topics  - mention a couple times of iphone7... nothing on ps4
http://www.abc15.com/ - front page has mention of iphone7 ... nothing on ps4
http://www.12news.com/nation-now (NBC) - multiple mentions of iphone7 and even a feature piece on Nintendo's SMR... but nada on PS4.



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JRPGfan on 07 September 2016
Mike_L said:

I agree that you lose a lot of coverage on mainstream news sites by announcing a new console revision the same day as (literally minutes after) iPhone 7 but I don't think iPhone 7 is going to steal a lot of its exposure on gaming sites.

PS4 Pro seems to get the spotlight on many sites so I think they're fine. Consoles only reach mainstream media when a new generation of hardware is announced anyway.

Eurogamer

 

Gamereactor

 

Gamesradar

 

Giant Bomb

 

IGN

 

PC Gamer

 

Polygon

 

PS4 Pro has just been added to Amazon for preorder. If that does well, I don't think Sony will have many regrets

^ that is just epic.

I tried a few general danish tech sites, alot of them have both.

Gameing sites all have the PS4 pro.

 

I guess this answears "Ruh-Roh - Will sony be dwarfed by apples iPhone 7 conference?"

The answear is no, sony is still in the news with their conference.



superchunk on 07 September 2016
Mike_L said:

Again, I agree completely that an announcement of a new iPhone will always take the mainstream media spotlight over a new console revision.

But regarding bold: When has news of a new console revision ever reached "local news, radio stations, CNN, The Today Show, etc"? The point that I'm (and others are) trying to make is that news about PS4 Pro wouldn't have reached mass media coverage whether there was a new iPhone announced or not.

And actually, PS4 Pro is on CNN's front page and on CNN Money.

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Hmm CNN tech had nothing (see my post above). If I go to CNN home page I do see one article for each. Iphone in hot topics and ps4 in news/buzz sections. So I will update my list above.



Mike_L on 07 September 2016
superchunk said:
Teeqoz said:

CNN home page actually has one article for both, iphone7 and ps4. Not sure what's up with their tech page.

Fox News tech page has 11 stories on front page. Top news is Apple. 6 of 11 overall are on iphone7, 1 is on ps4, rest are on other random stories.

BBC News (EU viewpoint) has 12 stories on front page. Top news is Apple. 2 are Sony (including decent question on if pro is generational leap or not), 1 Apple iphone7, 1 apple tax thing, and rest or other random stuffs such as brazzers hack and russian satellite hack.

The Verge (tech site) has 7 top stories. 5 are Apple and 2 are Sony.

CNET (tech news site) has 13 front page stories. 4 are iphone 7, 1 is Nintendo SMR, 1 is PS4Pro, remaining for are random stuff including the brazzers hack.

Slashdot (news for nerds) front page had 3 apple and 1 sony.

And yeat again, I don't think PS4 Pro would've had more than these 1-2 stories on these sites regardless of the iPhone 7 reveal.

Why do you think it'd would've had more. That's the only thing I need to know.



superchunk on 07 September 2016
Mike_L said:

And yeat again, I don't think PS4 Pro would've had more than these 1-2 stories on these sites regardless of the iPhone 7 reveal.

Why do you think it'd would've had more. That's the only thing I need to know.

Past history when MS/Sony/Nintendo announce new hardware it gets nods on these news networks.

I guess we can wait for NX reveal to see if I'm right as its a lot harder to find historical views of these sites.



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Mike_L on 07 September 2016
superchunk said:
Mike_L said:

And yeat again, I don't think PS4 Pro would've had more than these 1-2 stories on these sites regardless of the iPhone 7 reveal.

Why do you think it'd would've had more. That's the only thing I need to know.

Past history when MS/Sony/Nintendo announce new hardware it gets nods on these news networks.

I guess we can wait for NX reveal to see if I'm right as its a lot harder to find historical views of these sites.

You really need to read what people are posting. I'll give you a hint. Two actually.

First: Consoles only reach mainstream media when a new generation of hardware is announced anyway.

Second: Again, I agree completely that an announcement of a new iPhone will always take the mainstream media spotlight over a new console revision.



Jumpin on 08 September 2016

Looks like Nintendo sniped the day.



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Replicant on 22 March 2017
superchunk said:

Past history when MS/Sony/Nintendo announce new hardware it gets nods on these news networks.

I guess we can wait for NX reveal to see if I'm right as its a lot harder to find historical views of these sites.

So.. in the end, did the Switch launch really receive wide mainstream attention?

 

superchunk said:
- Whereas often there will be tidbits in late night television and other video media during their appropriate segments.

- I wonder what live news topics will be about tonight and/or my local radio stations will talk about on my drive home and/or my drive in the morning to work?

- They wanted local news, radio stations, CNN, The Today Show, etc anyone who runs a tech segment to make mention of PS4 Pro.

Of course, the announcement of a new iPhone will get the majority of mainstream attention any day.

But the quite launch of the Switch tells us that PS4 Pro probably wouldn't have made it to local news, radio stations, etc. anyway if it had been revealed a week apart from the iPhone 7. Especially since PS4 Pro is just a hardware revision and as people pointed out to you, only a new generation of hardware can hope for mass media coverage.